Thanks everybody for the quick replies. It has indeed been a warmer than usual spring Kay. In fact, I came home from work today and the poor little flower buds (alliums) were drooping very badly. Guess they're not used to it being this warm when they're in bloom! Penny, yes, we are roughly 200 km south and slightly east of Calgary. But alas, I don't recall Genie. I think I remember you from GARDENS Of course, with this being an El Nino year, the winter was milder than usual, but the grass still does fine. And we get chinooks here, which is what is the hardest on plants. Chinooks are thaw cycles when warm winds blow out of the Rockies. Our temps can fluctuate as much as 30 degrees in an hour (both up and down!). So the winds are dessicating and really rough on perennials. I don't know my grass variety, but I'm convinced it's the wrong one for here - it doesn't handle drought well. Right now, it's growing like crazy, but likely in another month or so, it'll brown up and start getting crispy. Our winters are normally fairly snowless, but we can get some whopper snows. The winter before last, we had snow in November that didn't disappear until spring thaw. This past winter, we had maybe two large snows at most. I think I wore my winter coat twice, and never did pull out the boots. Thanks again everyone. Brenda Lethbridge