Kay, my friend takes only slides of her trips, and then has prints made -- but I would never say that her prints are very good, altho the slides may be. She uses ordinary commercial processing. I have another friend who has her walls splattered with good photos of everything on her tours, but all the pix have a serious magenta cast to them. Obviously she gets them done at the same place every year. The fascinating thing is that we use the same custom lab -- and I guarantee that my pictures are not pink! I would guess that the operator knows what we both like by heart, and supplies it ....... My husband reminds me that years ago we used Agfa film, and it too had to be refrigerated. We were forced to give it up, since they withdrew it from the market. It's probably available in Europe.. To bring this thread back to the garden, my last roll of Kodak Gold just came in. What I see is that long view shots have given me much better color rendition than closeups. And the only reasonable pictures of the Starry Nights are the manually underexposed ones. Now that the PJMs, etc, are finished, Jimmie and I plan to tackle the Hino Crimson and Tradition (bold pink) azaleas, each of which I have in massive plantings. We will use a tripod (to keep the angle of view uniform), will pre-write down an assortment of exposures, and then will shoot. I'll use both Fuji and Kodak films. Last year's pictures of my extraordinarily colorful, jamm-packed big flower bed came out right on target, with no adjustments to the automatic exposures, full sun. Have not figured that out, yet. And I have a dozen photos of individual roses still happily showing their pretty faces at Hallowe'en, with perfect color. It's a puzzlement! Penny, NY zone 6 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]