Allen, I'm happy to hear about the Roundup killing the poison ivy. For the first time in 20 or 30 years, my husband Jim broke out in poison ivy one week ago. Now the challenge will be to spot the area in which that poison ivy might be growing! Many years ago our neighbors kept a big bunch of wood and junk under their 60 ft white pines which ran about 100 ft in a line between us. At that time I KNOW there was poison ivy there. We landscaped our side of the trees and kept finding it there. One day I told the neighbor that there were rats in the stone wall at the edge of the property, and that I had seen one in her debris. The very next week the place was cleaned up and she has never allowed it to get junked again! However, two weeks ago on an inspection walk, I discovered a bad leak in the underground watering system -- we could HEAR it -- way outside our line of sight, behind my hollies and rhodies and pieris japonicas (andromedas), on the neighbor's edge of lawn. Jim had to thread his way with his arms thru the assorted grown-up bushes to work on the repair. There were a few weeds happily growing in there, and betcha some of them must have been poison ivy. I'll take my trusty paint brush and jar of Roundup out there this weekend, and give those weeds the old one-two punch. It won't hurt if it takes 6-8 weeks, for hopefully no more breaks will occur. You know something strange...? We've had that Netafim soaker system in place for perhaps 8 years now, and this spring we have had at least 20 line breaks .... each one is associated with very strange piercings. Our theory is that some wild animal with mighty strong, sharp teeth has been attempting to bite thru the plastic lines. There's no water in there over the winter, for the system is drained under pressure. Wonder what they hope to find..? It's a real chore to do the patching, requiring a blow torch and strength in one's hands. We have the blow torch, but the hands no longer cooperate... Penny, NY zone 6 >Hi Cynthia and Penny, > Roundup is so effective in killing unwanted plants we use it >to kill >poison ivy. It takes about six weeks for the poison ivy to die >completly. > The problem you are having with the roots on plants that >roundup has >killed is that the roots are usually the strongest part of plants. The >roots are usually the last thing to break down unless affected by >disease. I grew garlic the size of coffee cups this year. When I tried >to pull them up I couldn't even though I have a sandy loam soil. I had >to use a digging fork to loosen the soil so I could remove the bulbs. > Happy Gardening, > Allen > Bastrop Co.,Tx. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]