Re: [gardeners] Is Duane (GARDENS-L) on vacation or what?

jaime (
Thu, 11 Jun 1998 02:18:13 -0400

Hi Bob.  You aren't the only one monitored, btw.  Several of us 
are.  What in heaven's name did you do ...?   Yer such an 
innocent.  I *know* I'm a trouble-maker.

Anyhow, Duane's ISP screwed him one time too many & they are in 
the midst of a battle, so his account is non-existent at the 
moment.  For the time being the list has reverted back to Crovo 
but ... well, you are seeing why he asked Duane to do the work 
... he simply ain't available.  

>    Well, it's my own fault I managed to achieve the unique honor of
> individually moderated status there... no big deal, Duane always sent my
> generally-prosaic posts straight on through, but the last one (8 days back)
> went to Bob Crovo (apparently the _official_ listowner) at UKY, and even a
> direct email request to please post it has gotten zero response (request to
> his address listed on their web page, not to some obscure folder he doesn't
> realize he's supposed to check).
>    As long as I'm asking, does anyone else in more favored zones have
> any experience with this vine?  (note at end was appended to the version
> finally sent to the original GARDENS-L correspondent).
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 21:58:33 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Bob Kirk <>
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> Subject: Re: Vine to cover shed in Dallas
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> > I live in Dallas, > TX and I have an unsightly utility shed in the
> > backyard.  Is there any vine > that I can plant at this late date that
> > will make significant progress in > covering up that ugly shed.
>   The Plumeria People catalog mentions Antigonon leptopus as a house-eater.
> Pretty fast-growing as I recall (in Kansas and no doubt planted really late,
> but it's been a few years). Chains of tiny bright rose-pink flowers over a
> long season in mid-late summer; PP also have a distinctly red form, maybe a
> white one, but TAMU website recommends it for everywhere but the Panhandle
> so you might find gallon plants locally for the $7-8 Plumeria People would
> charge for a (sturdy) 4" pot.
>    There's nothing shabby about even the common form. In general aspect,
> it's rather like silver lace vine, as a matter of fact  [the only other
> suggestion offered on-list] : great mass of foliage and flowers, but not in
> any way heavy or out of scale for covering something the size of a utility
> shed.
>    Like a banksia rose or wisteria, for example, two more ideas from the
> website. They call it coralvine there, I think PP call it something else.
> The color certainly isn't what most of us would call coral, at any rate. 
>    You might be safest asking for it by its real name, just don't ask me
> how to say it...  (?) Aunty GO non (?) An TIG on on (?)   Probably both
> right depending whether you tend to enunciate the words it's derived from
> or pronounce it (#2) as one word by the book.
>    Other non-southerners be warned: the only reason this isn't one of my
> prize plants (grows from smallish dahlia-like tubers which can be lifted)
> is that I grew it twice more, here & in central Kansas, and never saw
> bloom one. Fragrant Path suggests it blooms best when potbound, but I was
> trying to duplicate its original spectacular performance in the ground and
> have never gotten around to going back and trying it in a container.
> ----------------
> ...without going back in and editing: yes it is fast-growing / PP have
> a deeper rose form (the red was another vine) and a white / Sunset Western
> Garden Book reminds me this does have larger leaves than silver lace vine,
> but concurs in my recollection that it's in no way coarse or overwhelming /
> both SWGB and PP claim it blooms all summer & fall, which was actually my
> recollection but like I said that was several years ago and I didn't want
> to exaggerate if all I was remembering was a general impression of having
> been mightily impressed.
>    aka Mexican Love Vine (which also refers to Senecio confusus) and
> Queen's Wreath (which usually means some blue-flowering greenhouse thing
> I don't recall at the moment), thus my feeling when the above was written
> that the real name would be safest.