Allen, now I really am in trouble! All those 15 cucumber plants are NOT pickling cukes! >>>> Use only cucumbers intended for pickling not the slicers like burpless. <<<<< This week for practice I sliced down a firm, slender supermarket cuke and liberally salted it. Stuck it in the fridge for 8 hrs, then poured off the water which had come, added a bit of sugar, shredded purple onion, and some sour cream. Served it in 4 hrs. Did NOT like it. I guess I'm used to Raita, the Indian version -- it includes some finely shredded fresh ginger, and uses yogurt instead of sour cream. My problem is that I am a vinegar addict -- every day at 5:00 o'clock I get an insane craving for a pickle or a relish. Of course, salsa helps, but it still ain't a pickle! For a year I was forbidden all salt, and that was a death sentence. Then I discovered that the A&P chain carried a bread-and-butter pickle which tastes real, but is made without salt! I cornered the market. Still, it definitely was not a New York Kosher Deli Pickle -- and what's worse, I only like 'em "new". I must admit that I even found those in Hong Kong, at the "New York Style Delicatessen" where they also had hot pastrami .... ummmnn ... There's no pickle which comes in a jar on the supermarket shelf that can fill the bill. I expect to harvest close to 300 cukes this season, and it sounds to me like everyone else's zucchini mania..! Penny, NY _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]