At 11:42 AM 7/20/98 -0400, you wrote: <snip> >last year my husband and I ripped them all out. <snip>> >Alice Arrghghgrrhglllll (sound I make when stabbed through the heart) Cynthia (who loves loves loves roses) **Womyn Who Moves Mountains-Little Finger Of Michigan** **cmayeaux@traverse.com **USDA zone 4b-Sunset zone 41** ** http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/2659/garden/cynthia.html ** ** http://rdz.stjohns.edu/lists/fiftysomethingwomen/ **