Hi: I just received a product for testing from the Home Garden Club (Yes, they really do send test products!). It contains Benzyldiethyl and ammonium benzoate which is said to be the bitterest substance on earth. The directions are to spray it on the leaves and trunk or branches of the plants you don't want deer to eat. Since I live in a townehouse complex with no deer in sight, I will be testing this on my sedums and sempervivums and hostas to see if the local squirrels and rabbits will "learn" to leave them alone. Has anyone used this product? -- Diana Pederson, Lansing, MI, Zone 5 Column: http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/262 Mail-lists: http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/553/maillists.html Business: http://www.tir.com/~enabling/index.html