Forgot to mention that the hummingbirds are passing through on their way south. Have seen several over the past few days and put the test feeder up this morning. Several little heliocopters have been fighting over it since so guess I'll put up a couple more. Looks to be mostly ruby throat females although it is difficult for me to tell the ruby throat and black chin females apart. Did see one immature male ruby throat but a bigger female ran him off. Back to the patio door. George