Welcome to all the new members. How about a brief list of where everyone is from? (Including the oldtimers <VBG>) If you would like to send the info directly to me, I'll draw it up and send a completed list to the group. Matt Trahan <matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net> or <garden@juno.com> USDA zone 8, AHS heat zone 7, Sunset zone 31, northeastern N.C.