I hate lawn too. I keep chipping away at ours. hoping to turnit into flower beds. But I just heard a story about someone who did that which chilled me to my bones. Please believe me - I am not trying to advertise my web page here - I heard this story and thought it needed to be told. The woman in question escaped from the Nazis - came to America to escape oppression. And then they bulldozed her garden because it was "different' - because instead of lawn she had garden. They bulldozed her *backyard*! Please read it at http://www.suite101.com/articles/article.cfm/11040 and write to the Winnipeg newspaper or to any media you may have connection with not only protesting this action, but protesting weed ordinances everywhere that are worded so vaguely that they allow this kind of abuse. And believe me - I spent hours checking weed statutes and this could happen to many of us. Carol -- Virtually Gardening http://www.suite101.com/topics/page.cfm/75 Suite 101 Home & Garden http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/gardening.html