Alan, where do you get your pine needles you use for mulching? I have just been reading that a lot of very unfriendly insects will spend the winter underneath the pine needle mulch which I have allowed to accumulate in the evergreen beds as they fall. Penny, NY zone 6 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]