On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 drusus@golden.net wrote: > Kay must know a lot about poop. How much does it take for a hotframe? You mean you saw my old job description from the parasitology lab? "Official sh** stirrer" ;-) About 6-8" of nice fresh horse or cow manure and straw is what my mother's family always used in Iowa... less manure and more straw if you were dealing with chickens instead of horses and cows. Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com just west of Portland, OR USDA zone 8 (polarfleece) ANNOUNCING: Cyndi Johnson's catalog of gardening catalogs, 17th ed. For info on obtaining any or all parts (free!) drop a note to gardeninfo@fern.com