I certainly hope that spruce loss was a one-time incident! It had been there a few years, 11 feet tall, but it didn't resist a full-size pickup too well. I think its roots may be what knocked the tie rod loose, I sort of like that idea. The house is a ranch, with 4 or 5 steps up from ground level. No septic system. The water and sewer go through that part of the yard, we get everything else above ground in the back. There's a sidewalk out at the street. Is that enough to go on? Oh yes, we really like blue! David At 12:32 PM 1/31/99 -0800, you wrote: >> Last fall a drunk driver knocked down the blue spruce. > >Sounds like we need to find something that is at least that sturdy! ;-) > >> >> We were just going to get another blue spruce, but put it on the right side >> of the yard, farther from the house than the maple. I guess there's a 40 x >> 40 area for it, > > >What's the top clearance, and how tall is your house? What's underground >at that point? Do we have to worry about roots lifting sidewalks or >invading septic systems, for instance? > >Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com who's still not used to single story houses >cowering under 100 ft doug firs yet. > > >