RE Early Plant Out History lesson During the last El Nino, we had 60F weather starting Early April. I planted frost hardies and Semi Hardies, May 10th we had 24" of heavy wet snow. Frost hardies made it semi's did not. That last frost date is to help you prevent mistakes like this. You have a 50/50 chance of winning. Try this for weather, This weekend 8F 30 mph winds 12 to 15 in of snow. Can anyone tell my Malamutes prefer indoors to out, Have my 4th one. High Elevation Zone 4 NH Byron ---------- From: gardeners Digest <owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com> To: gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com Subject: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V1 #468 Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 12:05 AM gardeners Digest Friday, March 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 468 In this issue: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit [gardeners] Cold weather Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Re: [gardeners] Cold weather Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit/La Nina Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit/La Nina [gardeners] planting times? Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Re: [gardeners] Cold weather Re: [gardeners] Cold weather [gardeners] Disneyworld Re: [gardeners] Re: Grandes Jalapenos See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the gardeners or gardeners-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 05:13:41 -0700 From: "Jane Burdekin" <burdekij@bvsd.k12.co.us> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Hi George, Sorry about your spinach. I have to go out and check on mine since we had s**w last night. I have one daffodil in bloom and about 5 just about to break open. Wonder what it will do to them. We also have a prediction of 26F tonight. This is not a good thing with little leaves popping out on the lilac, honey suckle, and forsythia and all the bulbs popping up. Crazy weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming La Nina??? Jane > > Had to go out this morning and earn some flour and beans money but did > do a little playing about in the greenhouse and the gardens. Mostly I > was looking for hail damage, last night we had a very large, scary, > thunderstorm move through the area. Dumped one and a half inches of rain > and marble sized hail in about thirty minutes. I was in the greenhouse > when it hit and it spooked me enough that I ran for the house. Ever been > in a fiberglas greenhouse being pelted by hail? Noisy to say the least. > > No hail damage that I could find but about thirty feet of the west fence > planting area washed out, taking with it some newly planted NZ spinach > seed. I had been meaning to put some sort of barrier along the edge of > that space but hadn't gotten to it. It's on my "To Do" list for tomorrow > now, an hour late and a dollar short, that's me. > > Not only did we have bad weather but the blooming weatherman is now > saying it may get to freezing by the first of next week. Will one of you > people up north please close the corral gate, your cold air is escaping. > > George, off to TVLand, it's almost time for Dragnet and Adam 12. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:44:41 -0500 From: "Bill Loke" <bloke@silicon-north.com> Subject: [gardeners] Cold weather Sorry About that but It's overflowing the fencing here. March came in like a lion with snow, freezing rain, high winds and "0"F (18C) temperatures. This morning It was beautiful terrible with the sun shining thru the ice on the trees and making it look like Christmas. My new pup dog should have been born in the Yukon because He loves it outdoors right now. Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe Bill Loke USDA 4b RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0 - -----Original Message----- From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net> To: Gardeners List <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 8:03 PM Subject: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit >Not only did we have bad weather but the blooming weatherman is now >saying it may get to freezing by the first of next week. Will one of you >people up north please close the corral gate, your cold air is escaping. > >George, off to TVLand, it's almost time for Dragnet and Adam 12. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:46:52 -0600 From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Jane Burdekin wrote: > Hi George, > Sorry about your spinach. I have to go out and check on mine since we had > s**w last night. I have one daffodil in bloom and about 5 just about to > break open. Wonder what it will do to them. We also have a prediction of > 26F tonight. This is not a good thing with little leaves popping out on > the lilac, honey suckle, and forsythia and all the bulbs popping up. Crazy > weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming > La Nina??? > > Jane > I am, La Nina, is really messing up my spring. Hasn't been above 65F this week and nights have been as low as 39F. That's to cold for a SW Louisiana spring. George ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:49:14 -0600 From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Cold weather Bill Loke wrote: > Sorry About that but It's overflowing the fencing here. March came in like a > lion with snow, freezing rain, high winds and "0"F (18C) temperatures. This > morning It was beautiful terrible with the sun shining thru the ice on the > trees and making it look like Christmas. My new pup dog should have been > born in the Yukon because He loves it outdoors right now. > Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe > Bill Loke USDA 4b > RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0 Thanks a lot Bill, now I'll be shivering all day. I read your message to Sleepy Dawg and she went back on the couch and burrowed under the afghan. That's her thin-coated way of dealing with cold weather. That and begging one of us to get under there with here to share body warmth. George ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:10:35 -0500 (EST) From: John M Ford <jford@runet.edu> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit George Shirley wrote: > I am, La Nina, is really messing up my spring. Hasn't been above 65F this week > and nights have been as low as 39F. That's to cold for a SW Louisiana spring. George, Oooh, my heart bleeds! Wednesday morning I had a low of 41F with still air, but that was inside my house; outside it was considerably less balmy (20F with steady winds 25-30 mph gusting to 45-50 mph). It's Friday AM and still do not have any rental electrons with which to play; I do, however, have fewer shingles weighting down my roof. Talk about March coming in like a lion! January and February were downright balmy compared to this week! Oh well, I guess spring will get _here_ eventually. At any rate, I'll get a taste of spring tomorrow when I go visit the Southern Living Spring show in Charlotte NC - the landscaping displays are always a nice taste of spring even if they are indoors. John in a most unsouthern-like southwest Virginie currently zone YUKK! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:49:45 -0600 From: "Martha Brown" <mbrown@pldi.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit/La Nina M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 - -----Original Message----- From: Jane Burdekin <burdekij@bvsd.k12.co.us> To: gardeners@globalgarden.com <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Crazy >weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming >La Nina??? >Jane I think instead of El Nino then La Nina they came as twins and are now in their terrible twos !!!! Martha M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:44:42 -0600 From: burdekij@bvsd.k12.co.us (Jane Burdekin) Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit Ok, la nina it is than. Our March came in like a lamb, I'm afraid we are in for it. Our normal March s**wfall is 13" and we got 2" last night, more predicted for Sunday. Of course that will happen it's my husbands first scheduled softball game. Jane >Jane Burdekin wrote: > >> Hi George, >> Sorry about your spinach. I have to go out and check on mine since we had >> s**w last night. I have one daffodil in bloom and about 5 just about to >> break open. Wonder what it will do to them. We also have a prediction of >> 26F tonight. This is not a good thing with little leaves popping out on >> the lilac, honey suckle, and forsythia and all the bulbs popping up. Crazy >> weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming >> La Nina??? >> >> Jane >> > >I am, La Nina, is really messing up my spring. Hasn't been above 65F this week >and nights have been as low as 39F. That's to cold for a SW Louisiana spring. > >George ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:47:29 -0600 From: burdekij@bvsd.k12.co.us (Jane Burdekin) Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit/La Nina >M Brown >NW Oklahoma, USA >USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jane Burdekin <burdekij@bvsd.k12.co.us> >To: gardeners@globalgarden.com <gardeners@globalgarden.com> >Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 6:30 AM >Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit > > >Crazy >>weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming >>La Nina??? >>Jane > > >I think instead of El Nino then La Nina they came as twins and are now in >their terrible twos !!!! > >Martha >M Brown >NW Oklahoma, USA >USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 YIKES!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:12:30 PST From: "c.l. avery" <clavery111@hotmail.com> Subject: [gardeners] planting times? Dear List Memebers, This question is for any of my list-mates here in the DC greater suburban area: what date are you planning to start your spring planting??? The County Extension Agent told me that the official last frost date is 28 April, but surely we are not going to wait that long to plant??? I will be putting in raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, and rosa rugosas this spring. Any suggestions for the timing of planting them would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn Zone 7b Bethesda ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:35:19 -0700 From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit At 07:46 AM 3/5/99 -0600, you wrote: >Jane Burdekin wrote: > >> Hi George, >> Sorry about your spinach. I have to go out and check on mine since we had >> s**w last night. I have one daffodil in bloom and about 5 just about to >> break open. Wonder what it will do to them. We also have a prediction of >> 26F tonight. This is not a good thing with little leaves popping out on >> the lilac, honey suckle, and forsythia and all the bulbs popping up. Crazy >> weather, it's been way too warm here for the winter. Are we still blaming >> La Nina??? >> >> Jane >> > >I am, La Nina, is really messing up my spring. Hasn't been above 65F this week >and nights have been as low as 39F. That's to cold for a SW Louisiana spring. > >George > Jane, an old post from Debbie Green reported daffs suffer from stem topple at temps around 15 and below. The flowers aren't hurt, so if your stems topple, pick the flowers and bring them inside. Margaret, who truly hates to mention such a temp in the presence of George. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:36:50 -0700 From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Cold weather At 07:49 AM 3/5/99 -0600, you wrote: >Bill Loke wrote: > >> Sorry About that but It's overflowing the fencing here. March came in like a >> lion with snow, freezing rain, high winds and "0"F (18C) temperatures. This >> morning It was beautiful terrible with the sun shining thru the ice on the >> trees and making it look like Christmas. My new pup dog should have been >> born in the Yukon because He loves it outdoors right now. >> Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe >> Bill Loke USDA 4b >> RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0 > >Thanks a lot Bill, now I'll be shivering all day. I read your message to Sleepy >Dawg and she went back on the couch and burrowed under the afghan. That's her >thin-coated way of dealing with cold weather. That and begging one of us to get >under there with here to share body warmth. > >George > she'd have a completely different attitude if I got under there and put my cold feet on her. Screech! My beagle didn't mind though. Margaret ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:41:41 -0600 From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Cold weather margaret lauterbach wrote: > At 07:49 AM 3/5/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Bill Loke wrote: > > > >> Sorry About that but It's overflowing the fencing here. March came in > like a > >> lion with snow, freezing rain, high winds and "0"F (18C) temperatures. This > >> morning It was beautiful terrible with the sun shining thru the ice on the > >> trees and making it look like Christmas. My new pup dog should have been > >> born in the Yukon because He loves it outdoors right now. > >> Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe > >> Bill Loke USDA 4b > >> RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0 > > > >Thanks a lot Bill, now I'll be shivering all day. I read your message to > Sleepy > >Dawg and she went back on the couch and burrowed under the afghan. That's her > >thin-coated way of dealing with cold weather. That and begging one of us > to get > >under there with here to share body warmth. > > > >George > > > she'd have a completely different attitude if I got under there and put my > cold feet on her. Screech! My beagle didn't mind though. Margaret Yup, she would move quickly. Miz Anne has done that to her a time or two and Sleepy moves over to lie next to me in the old easy chair. Do all them little skinny wimmen have cold feet? Miz Anne used to put them cold things in the middle of my back in our younger days. I won't mention how I broke her of that habit but she wears socks to bed when it gets really cold. Does that mean we're getting old or what? <VBG> George ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:52:37 -0600 From: "Harry Boswell" <hboswell@netdoor.com> Subject: [gardeners] Disneyworld Family and I are headed to Disneyworld in the morning, so I'll be outta here for a week or so. Y'all be good. Harry Boswell hboswell@netdoor.com USDA Zone 8 http://www2.netdoor.com/~hboswell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:47:36 -0600 From: Allen and Judy Merten <jbmerten@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [gardeners] Re: Grandes Jalapenos Hi Mary-Anne, I planted the Jalapeno Grandes last year for the first time. They are hot for Jalapenos. We picked 1/2 lb from each plant twice weekly. I don't have any seeds, but the plants are from Bonnie plants. The information stick is outside in the garden. I will check in the morning but I think that the email address is www.bonnieplants.com. That is the correct address, I just went there to be sure. It has a list of retail outlets. Maybe you can find one in your area. Happy Gardening, Allen Bastrop Co., Tx. Shantihhh@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/4/99 5:05:24 AM, owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com > writes: > > << The Grandes >> > > Dear Allen & Judy, > > Please tell me of these Grandes Hotter Jalapenos. I have not hear of them. > If you have seeds I would be interested in trading. You can discuss off list > if interested. Thank you, > > Mary-Anne ------------------------------ End of gardeners Digest V1 #468 ******************************* To subscribe to gardeners-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "gardeners-digest-request@globalgarden.com". 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