Re: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V1 #470
Byron.Bromley (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:28:35 -0500
Carolyn in Bethesda
My book say's typical last frost in Wash DC is 3-29
Keep a green thumb up
Byron
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From: gardeners Digest <owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com>
To: gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com
Subject: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V1 #470
Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 12:05 AM
gardeners Digest Sunday, March 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number
470
In this issue:
[gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
[gardeners] Re:Saturday in the garden
[gardeners] Plum Trees
[gardeners] Plum Trees
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
[gardeners] OT
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
[gardeners] Wheel barrows & carts
Re: [gardeners] Plum Trees
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] Planting Times--MA
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 22:07:58 PST
From: "c.l. avery" <clavery111@hotmail.com>
Subject: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Dear list,
What? Planting peas near Boston on St. Pattie's Day? (before the
traditional pub crawl I am assuming) Both my parents were Yankees and
they always told me "never plant before Memorial Day". Anyone else
concur? They also used to say, "corn knee high by the 4th of July"...
How about the greater DC area list members? When are you all planning
garden plantings to avoid last frosts?
Carolyn
Zone 7b
Bethesda
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:35:33 -0500
From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
George, what does a "good garden cart" look like? My
wheelbarrow is collapsing, and I am in dire need......
Penny, NY zone 6, still very much winter
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 01:21:54 -0500
From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit
Anne, is it customary for you and your husband to go out in
the canoe just as soon as the ice disappears? I'm an old timer
(Old Town) at canoeing, best sport around, but I never got the
chance to try it while the water was still so cold, and the trees
not yet leafed out. It sounds very appealing...
Certainly I do wish you a speedy strengthening of your knees,
and a happy recovery..
Penny in New York
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 01:28:57 -0500
From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Carolyn, here just north of Manhattan, we usually do not
plant until after Memorial Day, just as you said. Of course,
peas and radishes go in a month earlier. If they don't make it,
nothing's lost.
We had a tremendous snow and ice storm on April 6th, back in
1969.
Penny, NY zone 6
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:44:42 -0600
From: bsk <bsk@brightok.net>
Subject: [gardeners] Re:Saturday in the garden
Penny so far I haven't had enough garden to warrant a good cart. Last year
we had the drought in Oklahoma.
Ever since my husbands now deceased grandma had a wagon she pulled
every
where, I have always thought I wanted a BIG children's wagon. Now that I am
a granny I think I deserve it! Even if my grand baby isn't near enough to
give a ride. :-(
I think the perfect cart would be a wagon with removable sides on it
that could hold a little dirt or whatever I wanted. I still get such a
picture of his 90+ year old grandma humped over with her broom handled
walking stick and pulling her wagon outside.
bsk
- ----------------------------------------------------
> George, what does a "good garden cart" look like? My
> wheelbarrow is collapsing, and I am in dire need......
>
> Penny, NY zone 6, still very much winter
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:04:12 -0600
From: "Ed Wise" <edwise@ectisp.net>
Subject: [gardeners] Plum Trees
Hello All,
I am looking for information on the care of Vesuvius Plums.
Latin = Prunus cerasifera 'Krauter Vesuvius'. The only plum trees I am
familiar with are the wild ones in Central Texas. There are a few of these
trees at the local Home Depot ($13.88) and I have just the spot for a tree
with it's color. Any help will be appreciated.
Ed and Kim Wise
edwise@ectisp.net
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 08:04:12 -0600
From: "Ed Wise" <edwise@ectisp.net>
Subject: [gardeners] Plum Trees
Hello All,
I am looking for information on the care of Vesuvius Plums.
Latin = Prunus cerasifera 'Krauter Vesuvius'. The only plum trees I am
familiar with are the wild ones in Central Texas. There are a few of these
trees at the local Home Depot ($13.88) and I have just the spot for a tree
with it's color. Any help will be appreciated.
Ed and Kim Wise
edwise@ectisp.net
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:06:37 EST
From: HolzwarthA@aol.com
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
We always planted peas in mid march in New England and Central New York.
Anne
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 09:12:48 EST
From: HolzwarthA@aol.com
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday - in the garden for a bit
Yes we are the odd old folks that get in the water as soon as the ice goes.
Of course we wear life jackets at this time of year and it makes it a
little
uncomfortable. One year we had the pontoon boat out March 1st. Last year
it
was April 1st. We have to wear winter jackets and mittens but it is fun
and I
look forward to it. We love the lake and say that God paints us a picture
that changes daily. ( sometimes several times in the hour with the sun,
clouds, wind etc). We really appreciate our luck in having such a
beautiful
place to live and grow. I have a 10 x 13 greenhouse attached to the house
so
I have many things blooming all winter.
Anne
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 08:41:00 -0600
From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
penny x stamm wrote:
> George, what does a "good garden cart" look like? My
> wheelbarrow is collapsing, and I am in dire need......
>
> Penny, NY zone 6, still very much winter
>
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I've been looking at the high wheel (looks like bike wheels but stronger) 1
or 2 cubic yard carts. Friend has one, I forget the name, and it rolls
easily with a good sized load and you can pull the front closure and dump
the load readily. Several of the garden supply catalogs carry them and a
few
of the places like Home Depot and Lowe's carry them. I have seen several in
the Northern catalog and, the next time I get the catalog, may order one.
Our old wheelbarrow is about 30 years old, with a solid front wheel and is
a
real pain to push around. Just hate to throw anything out so may try to
rework the old one for light duty use.
George
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 07:59:01 -0700
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
At 10:07 PM 3/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>Dear list,
> What? Planting peas near Boston on St. Pattie's Day? (before the
>traditional pub crawl I am assuming) Both my parents were Yankees and
>they always told me "never plant before Memorial Day". Anyone else
>concur? They also used to say, "corn knee high by the 4th of July"...
>
> How about the greater DC area list members? When are you all planning
>garden plantings to avoid last frosts?
>
> Carolyn
> Zone 7b
> Bethesda
If you wait that late, the pea weevils will have a high old time. Margaret
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:49:37 -0500
From: drusus@golden.net
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
At 07:59 AM 07-03-99 -0700, you wrote:
>At 10:07 PM 3/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>>Dear list,
>> What? Planting peas near Boston on St. Pattie's Day? (before the
>>traditional pub crawl I am assuming) Both my parents were Yankees and
>>they always told me "never plant before Memorial Day". Anyone else
>>concur? They also used to say, "corn knee high by the 4th of July"...
>>
>> How about the greater DC area list members? When are you all planning
>>garden plantings to avoid last frosts?
>>
>> Carolyn
>> Zone 7b
>> Bethesda
>If you wait that late, the pea weevils will have a high old time.
Margaret
Most things are planted out about Memorial Day but peas is not one of them,
including sweet peas. Lucinda
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:50:52 -0500
From: drusus@golden.net
Subject: [gardeners] OT
I am sorry but I do not know the source.
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>>>
>>>10: The monitor is up on blocks.
>>> 9: Outgoing faxes have tobacco stains on them.
>>> 8: The six front keys have rotted out.
>>> 7: The extra RAM slots have Dodge truck parts installed in them.
>>> 6: The numeric key pad only goes up to six.
>>> 5: The password is "Bubba".
>>> 4: There is a gun rack mounted on the CPU.
>>> 3: There is a Skoal can in the CD-ROM drive.
>>> 2: The keyboard is camouflaged.
>>> 1: The mouse is refered to as a "critter".
>>>
>>>
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 08:39:56 -0700
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
>
>I've been looking at the high wheel (looks like bike wheels but stronger)
1
>or 2 cubic yard carts. Friend has one, I forget the name, and it rolls
>easily with a good sized load and you can pull the front closure and dump
>the load readily. Several of the garden supply catalogs carry them and a
few
>of the places like Home Depot and Lowe's carry them. I have seen several
in
>the Northern catalog and, the next time I get the catalog, may order one.
>Our old wheelbarrow is about 30 years old, with a solid front wheel and is
a
>real pain to push around. Just hate to throw anything out so may try to
>rework the old one for light duty use.
>
>George
>
I have one of those, Penny and George, and it's not as useful as it may
seem. Cost over $100, but it really doesn't haul heavy stuff well (it's a
bitch to use when it has cinder blocks or soil in it), and it will not go
through either of my gates to the front yard. It hauls leaves, and apart
from that, what we use it for is to hold corn stalks, pending grinding up
(theoretically).Every spring the tires are flat, as they are on my cheapest
wheelbarrow, so I have to hand-pump them up. One of my best and most used
carts is the one made out of recycled plastic, with a deep bin. Wally's
World, Home Depot, or Home Base or any other chain store should have them
for $40 or less. Practically indestructible. Only flaw is that there
should be a handle on the bottom, because when you dump it out over the
front, the only way to completely empty the bin is to grab the bottom to
tip it completely over. You don't get much of a grip that way, either. If
I have anything really heavy to haul, I usually use a shallow wheelbarrow I
bought used for $10. I have two shallow (rehabilitated one by buying a new
wheel that actually turns, unlike the old one) wheelbarrows, a
pseudo-contractor's wheelbarrow, the deep plastic one and the bicycle wheel
job. Still like the plastic one best. Margaret
>
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 09:00:17 -0700
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
At 10:49 AM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>At 07:59 AM 07-03-99 -0700, you wrote:
>>At 10:07 PM 3/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>>>Dear list,
>>> What? Planting peas near Boston on St. Pattie's Day? (before the
>>>traditional pub crawl I am assuming) Both my parents were Yankees and
>>>they always told me "never plant before Memorial Day". Anyone else
>>>concur? They also used to say, "corn knee high by the 4th of July"...
>>>
>>> How about the greater DC area list members? When are you all planning
>>>garden plantings to avoid last frosts?
>>>
>>> Carolyn
>>> Zone 7b
>>> Bethesda
>>If you wait that late, the pea weevils will have a high old time.
Margaret
>
>Most things are planted out about Memorial Day but peas is not one of
them,
>including sweet peas. Lucinda
>>
Okay, Lucinda, but think about it. You can and should plant broccoli,
Brussels sprouts, cabbage, kale, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce, radishes,
carrots, peas, sugar snap peas, turnips, rutabagas, potatoes, Swiss chard,
beets, endive, onions and Asian greens long before Memorial Day. That's
about the time you set out frost-tender plants such as tomatoes, peppers,
eggplants, corn, squashes, cucumbers, celery and melons.
After planting most of the garden early last year, I was rather surprised
at how little there was to plant after the last date of expected frost. In
the past, I've planted the early garden over a period of time, but last
year planted it all at once. Best, Margaret
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:43:30 -0600
From: bsk <bsk@brightok.net>
Subject: [gardeners] Wheel barrows & carts
We have a contractors wheel barrow that we use around here that is very
deep and
has a plastic bin. This is the nicest one we have ever had. No rusting to
worry
about. The Big thick wheel in front stays up well. We mainly use it to heap
up
wood and bring it into the garage in the winter. I haven't had much garden
use
for it yet because of last years disaster. Usually around the ranch we just
back
up the old R.T. to whatever and load'er up! I have trees to trim we either
park
under it or right next to it. We need rocks we go out in the field and
chunk them
in! Need wood, haul off into the pasture cut and toss the wood in.
I guess after reading this and thinking about it our very best wheel
barrow
is the 1978 old Black F150 Ford. I don't have to balance on one wheel
since
there are four. The only muscles I strain are the ones to load and unload
the
thing. It goes most anywhere so far. But it does rust that's one draw back.
bsk
- -------------------------------------------
margaret lauterbach wrote:
> One of my best and most used
> carts is the one made out of recycled plastic, with a deep bin.
Practically
> indestructible.a pseudo-contractor's wheelbarrow, the deep plastic one
and the
> bicycle wheel job. Still like the plastic one best. Margaret
> >
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:55:53 -0600
From: Allen and Judy Merten <jbmerten@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Plum Trees
Hi Ed,
I checked my Texas Ag.Extension Service booklet #B-5079, Fruit
Gardening in
the Landscape, and found these varieties recommended for Central Texas:
Morris, Methley, Ozark, Premier, Bruce, Allred.
The booklet also suggests that any plum planted in Texas be one that is
grafted on
Nemagaurd root stock.
Hope this helps. No Latin names listed for these varieties.
Allen
Bastrop Co., Tx.
Ed Wise wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am looking for information on the care of Vesuvius Plums.
> Latin = Prunus cerasifera 'Krauter Vesuvius'. The only plum trees I am
> familiar with are the wild ones in Central Texas. There are a few of
these
> trees at the local Home Depot ($13.88) and I have just the spot for a
tree
> with it's color. Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Ed and Kim Wise
> edwise@ectisp.net
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:04:57 -0600
From: Allen and Judy Merten <jbmerten@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Hi George and all,
I had a solid wheeled wheel barrow. Replaced it with a pneumatic tired
one
like contractors use with a deep steel body. It is a lot easier to push,
stronger handles and better balance.
Allen
Bastrop Co., Tx
George Shirley wrote:
> penny x stamm wrote:
>
> > George, what does a "good garden cart" look like? My
> > wheelbarrow is collapsing, and I am in dire need......
> >
> > Penny, NY zone 6, still very much winter
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at
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> > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
>
> I've been looking at the high wheel (looks like bike wheels but stronger)
1
> or 2 cubic yard carts. Friend has one, I forget the name, and it rolls
> easily with a good sized load and you can pull the front closure and dump
> the load readily. Several of the garden supply catalogs carry them and a
few
> of the places like Home Depot and Lowe's carry them. I have seen several
in
> the Northern catalog and, the next time I get the catalog, may order one.
> Our old wheelbarrow is about 30 years old, with a solid front wheel and
is a
> real pain to push around. Just hate to throw anything out so may try to
> rework the old one for light duty use.
>
> George
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 12:25:56 -0500
From: "Bill Loke" <bloke@silicon-north.com>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
Now isn't that strange. We have one of the plantation carts made by an
outfit in Vermont. We think it's the greatest since sliced bread. :-) I put
huge loads in it and wheel it about quite easily. Sample loads would be
half
a face cord of wood for the greenhouse, 6-8 sacks of potatoes, corn,
carrots, My chipper /shredder, mounds of garden debris. It is so easy to
use
that we had a 5 year old pulling her 7 year sister around in it. We wonder
what we would do without it now.
Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe
Bill Loke USDA 4b
RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0
- -----Original Message-----
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
To: gardeners@globalgarden.com <gardeners@globalgarden.com>
Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
>>
>>I've been looking at the high wheel (looks like bike wheels but stronger)
1
>>or 2 cubic yard carts. Friend has one, I forget the name, and it rolls
>>easily with a good sized load and you can pull the front closure and dump
>>the load readily. Several of the garden supply catalogs carry them and a
few
>>of the places like Home Depot and Lowe's carry them. I have seen several
in
>>the Northern catalog and, the next time I get the catalog, may order one.
>>Our old wheelbarrow is about 30 years old, with a solid front wheel and
is
a
>>real pain to push around. Just hate to throw anything out so may try to
>>rework the old one for light duty use.
>>
>>George
>>
>I have one of those, Penny and George, and it's not as useful as it may
>seem. Cost over $100, but it really doesn't haul heavy stuff well (it's a
>bitch to use when it has cinder blocks or soil in it), and it will not go
>through either of my gates to the front yard. It hauls leaves, and apart
>from that, what we use it for is to hold corn stalks, pending grinding up
>(theoretically).Every spring the tires are flat, as they are on my
cheapest
>wheelbarrow, so I have to hand-pump them up. One of my best and most used
>carts is the one made out of recycled plastic, with a deep bin. Wally's
>World, Home Depot, or Home Base or any other chain store should have them
>for $40 or less. Practically indestructible. Only flaw is that there
>should be a handle on the bottom, because when you dump it out over the
>front, the only way to completely empty the bin is to grab the bottom to
>tip it completely over. You don't get much of a grip that way, either.
If
>I have anything really heavy to haul, I usually use a shallow wheelbarrow
I
>bought used for $10. I have two shallow (rehabilitated one by buying a
new
>wheel that actually turns, unlike the old one) wheelbarrows, a
>pseudo-contractor's wheelbarrow, the deep plastic one and the bicycle
wheel
>job. Still like the plastic one best. Margaret
>>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 10:30:19 -0700
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
At 12:25 PM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Now isn't that strange. We have one of the plantation carts made by an
>outfit in Vermont. We think it's the greatest since sliced bread. :-) I
put
>huge loads in it and wheel it about quite easily. Sample loads would be
half
>a face cord of wood for the greenhouse, 6-8 sacks of potatoes, corn,
>carrots, My chipper /shredder, mounds of garden debris. It is so easy to
use
>that we had a 5 year old pulling her 7 year sister around in it. We wonder
>what we would do without it now.
>Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe
>Bill Loke USDA 4b
>RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0
It's easy to use when it's empty or has a light load, but a heavy load is
something else in my yard. Margaret
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:55:10 -0600
From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
margaret lauterbach wrote:
> At 12:25 PM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Now isn't that strange. We have one of the plantation carts made by an
> >outfit in Vermont. We think it's the greatest since sliced bread. :-) I
put
> >huge loads in it and wheel it about quite easily. Sample loads would be
half
> >a face cord of wood for the greenhouse, 6-8 sacks of potatoes, corn,
> >carrots, My chipper /shredder, mounds of garden debris. It is so easy to
use
> >that we had a 5 year old pulling her 7 year sister around in it. We
wonder
> >what we would do without it now.
> >Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe
> >Bill Loke USDA 4b
> >RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0
>
> It's easy to use when it's empty or has a light load, but a heavy load is
> something else in my yard. Margaret
I can understand that. From recent posts your yard is rapidly becoming a
swamp.
<VBG>
George
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:30:41 -0700
From: margaret lauterbach <mlaute@micron.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
At 11:55 AM 3/7/99 -0600, you wrote:
>margaret lauterbach wrote:
>
>> At 12:25 PM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Now isn't that strange. We have one of the plantation carts made by an
>> >outfit in Vermont. We think it's the greatest since sliced bread. :-) I
put
>> >huge loads in it and wheel it about quite easily. Sample loads would be
half
>> >a face cord of wood for the greenhouse, 6-8 sacks of potatoes, corn,
>> >carrots, My chipper /shredder, mounds of garden debris. It is so easy
to use
>> >that we had a 5 year old pulling her 7 year sister around in it. We
wonder
>> >what we would do without it now.
>> >Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe
>> >Bill Loke USDA 4b
>> >RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0
>>
>> It's easy to use when it's empty or has a light load, but a heavy load
is
>> something else in my yard. Margaret
>
>I can understand that. From recent posts your yard is rapidly becoming a
swamp.
><VBG>
>
>George
>
A frozen swamp, at that. Did I mention it's snowing? :-((( On the good
news side, we now have robins in residence, or at least one. the previous
ones were migrating. This one's enjoying its territory. George, would you
please alert us when the hummers come through? Thanks, Margaret
>
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:13:57 -0500
From: "Lorraine Young" <lyoung@npiec.on.ca>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Planting Times--MA
I love indicators like this because it doesn't matter where you live or
what the weather has been like, it works.(unless the indicator isn't
in your area).
One I use is you prune your roses when the forsythia is in bloom
(Thank you John Reeves).
Typically, you plant spring frost tolerant plants (spinach, lettuce,
peas) when the ground is workable. I'm not completely sure of
what this means but I do know the ground can't be frozen and not
too wet (I'm gardening in a partial swamp.) For me in zone 6, that's
not until April sometime.
On 6 Mar 99, Bill Loke wrote:
> Around here the time to plant peas is when the leaves on the lilacs are
> the size of a mouse's ear.
Lorraine Young, Southern Ontario
lyoung@npiec.on.ca
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:24:43 -0500
From: drusus@golden.net
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
At 09:00 AM 07-03-99 -0700, you wrote:
>At 10:49 AM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>At 07:59 AM 07-03-99 -0700, you wrote:
>>>At 10:07 PM 3/6/99 PST, you wrote:
>>>>Dear list,
>>>> What? Planting peas near Boston on St. Pattie's Day? (before the
>>>>traditional pub crawl I am assuming) Both my parents were Yankees and
>>>>they always told me "never plant before Memorial Day". Anyone else
>>>>concur? They also used to say, "corn knee high by the 4th of July"...
>>>>
>>>> How about the greater DC area list members? When are you all
planning
>>>>garden plantings to avoid last frosts?
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn
>>>> Zone 7b
>>>> Bethesda
>>>If you wait that late, the pea weevils will have a high old time.
Margaret
>>
>>Most things are planted out about Memorial Day but peas is not one of
them,
>>including sweet peas. Lucinda
>>>
>Okay, Lucinda, but think about it. You can and should plant broccoli,
>Brussels sprouts, cabbage, kale, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce, radishes,
>carrots, peas, sugar snap peas, turnips, rutabagas, potatoes, Swiss chard,
>beets, endive, onions and Asian greens long before Memorial Day. That's
>about the time you set out frost-tender plants such as tomatoes, peppers,
>eggplants, corn, squashes, cucumbers, celery and melons.
>
>After planting most of the garden early last year, I was rather surprised
>at how little there was to plant after the last date of expected frost.
In
>the past, I've planted the early garden over a period of time, but last
>year planted it all at once. Best, Margaret
OOPS! I was rather brief, wasn't I! I do always put out my 'greens'
garden about the 1st of April, sometimes before---yes, most of the stuff
you list above.
Lucinda
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:15:42 -0500
From: "Jill Fyffe" <rfyffe@peterboro.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
An old gardener that has lovely sweet peas told me you are suppose
to plant them on Good Friday. . . .she lives in Peterborough same as
me and since I have followed her "rule" my sweet peas have been
great. We can still be very cold then and get snow but it doesn't
seem to bother the seeds.
I love sweet peas!!
Jill
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:57:37 -0600
From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden
margaret lauterbach wrote:
> At 11:55 AM 3/7/99 -0600, you wrote:
> >margaret lauterbach wrote:
> >
> >> At 12:25 PM 3/7/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >Now isn't that strange. We have one of the plantation carts made by
an
> >> >outfit in Vermont. We think it's the greatest since sliced bread. :-)
I
> put
> >> >huge loads in it and wheel it about quite easily. Sample loads would
be
> half
> >> >a face cord of wood for the greenhouse, 6-8 sacks of potatoes, corn,
> >> >carrots, My chipper /shredder, mounds of garden debris. It is so easy
> to use
> >> >that we had a 5 year old pulling her 7 year sister around in it. We
wonder
> >> >what we would do without it now.
> >> >Friends are the flowers in the Garden of LIfe
> >> >Bill Loke USDA 4b
> >> >RR#1 Kars Ont K0A 2E0
> >>
> >> It's easy to use when it's empty or has a light load, but a heavy load
is
> >> something else in my yard. Margaret
> >
> >I can understand that. From recent posts your yard is rapidly becoming a
> swamp.
> ><VBG>
> >
> >George
> >
> A frozen swamp, at that. Did I mention it's snowing? :-((( On the good
> news side, we now have robins in residence, or at least one. the
previous
> ones were migrating. This one's enjoying its territory. George, would
you
> please alert us when the hummers come through? Thanks, Margaret
> >
You've been peeking again. I took the feeders down and have them in a
sterilizing
solution now. If it ever warms up again and we get a good stiff wind from
the SW I
expect the scouts to start showing up.
George
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:01:11 -0600
From: George Shirley <gshirley@laol.net>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
Jill Fyffe wrote:
> An old gardener that has lovely sweet peas told me you are suppose
> to plant them on Good Friday. . . .she lives in Peterborough same as
> me and since I have followed her "rule" my sweet peas have been
> great. We can still be very cold then and get snow but it doesn't
> seem to bother the seeds.
>
> I love sweet peas!!
> Jill
I've been following all of the "planting times" posts with interests. I
live and garden in SW Louisiana, USDA Zone 9b, we plant greens all
winter, peas and beans when we get around to them ie the ground can be
worked, tomatoes, peppers, etc. again when the ground warms up. This can
be about anytime after February 18th around here. Suspect a lot of you
would never be able to put stuff in the ground that early but if we wait
the bugs and the heat will get them.
George
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:14:28 -0500
From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com>
Subject: Re: [gardeners] planting time in New England
But --- Margaret and everybody, we could not possibly till the earth
in the cold and wet condition in which it exists right now.
We had a complete snow cover last night for about 12 hours
before it melted down. And the wind is threatening to tear the
roof off the house. If I were a seed pea, I would want to remain in
a cozy box on the kitchen counter, until better days had arrived.
Penny, NY zone 6 -- still winter
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