Oh, Allen -- it wasn't the smoked meat that was the problem. It was the frequency of eating it that way. We had a cousin who used to fix himself a steak every night in his Greenwich Village loft, and that's how the question came up. He liked it black and blue, not slow smoked. Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.