Hi, Penny (NS) -- I also lost 2 PJMs on the west side and 1 PJM on the east side of the yard. I am told that once they are established, they will not be hard to keep. However, those first few years appear to be precarious. I seem to have licked the problem in an unexpected way -- noticing that PJM leaves tend to hang down easily, a sign of insufficient water, I cut in to a nearby flower bed water supply on each side of the yard, and ran an auxilliary line looping around each PJM. That means that they get an astonishing amount of water now, for the past year! The shrubs get underground watered once a week, when it doesn't rain. But the flower beds get watered twice a day for 10 minutes, also underground. And if we have these prolonged 95-100 degree days such as now, I tell the water clock to add one more 10 minute watering for the flowers. I swore I would never again do it, but I just went out and bought two new PJMs.......... Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.