Margaret, my neighbor suggests that Roto-Rooter has some sort of "stethoscope" available... Not sure if it pays to spend $95 for them to come over, or if Jimmie would perhaps get $95 worth of pleasure from the digging... Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.