Hi, Jane -- we're just in the door from 4 days in mid-Pennsylvania. Seems to me that they have it perhaps 5 degrees warmer than we do here by the coast, for their flowers are still gorgeous... I was taken to a special garden nursery by our cousin, where the owner walked us around for two hours and pointed out his passionate favorites. What an experience! He has a warm, moist, tall greenhouse in which he has many unknown orchids, one more beautiful than the other. Stuffed in there in profusion are dozens of sub-tropical, mature and magnificent plants, including yellow bamboo and species or cultivars of every sort which the average gardener willl never have come across.. One can barely maneuver down the isles. Outside he has a strange way of displaying his plants. Nothing is laid out in rows. Without a guide dog you could never find some specimen he told you was out there. Every which way he turned he came across another gem tucked in amongst gems -- his love for the entire inventory cannot be measured.. If I had had a van or station wagon, I could easily have spent a mighty fortune with some of the larger pieces. Instead, as a thank-you for his wonderful time well spent, I only bought four plants, and the bill came to next to nothing. Their pricing system is about half of what I must pay in the New York suburbs: Taxus bacata adpressa `fowls' Champis squarossa lilea Geranium Centennial perennial blood grass, about 4 ft tall, with upright silver sheaths, and tall leaves just now turning red Anybody who lives anywheres near to Reading, Penna., and wishes to go have a look, just message me. ...................................... Jimmie is waiting until I give the word that I am willing to clear out the big annual flower bed, so he can start digging for that deep drainage pipe. There's too much still happily in full bloom for me to give the ok as yet. To my amazement, as I was unloading the car, I took the time to deadhead 5 very tall dahlia flowers -- and guess what...? I got stung. I was shocked! I haven't been stung in years and years -- great big black bumble bees semed to be drinking at some of the dahlias, but I certainly think it was something else which got me, for the sting spot is not too sore. There's no sign of a stinger, which should help identify the culprit, I think. .................................. When we were in Florrisant, Colorado, in July 9 years ago, for a week, it rained twice a day very hard but quickly. What time of year do you normally get your rain..? You probably enjoyed having it now, even if it is unusual. Rain (in moderation) is such a refresher... Penny, NY zone 6 On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 05:34:41 -0600 "Jane Burdekin" <burdekij@BVSD.K12.CO.US> writes: >Penny, >Good luck with your digging and draining, and with the rain to come. >It >has even been raining here in Colorado, not a normal thing. I have to >get >going on bringing in my outdoor plants, it is getting down to 40 >degrees >here at night. > >Jane > >---------- >> From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com> >> To: gardeners@globalgarden.com >> Subject: [gardeners] Re: more rain to come... >> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:10 AM >> >> . >> No, BSK, the pipe is standard "clay drainage pipe". When >> there is heavy rain, it backs up and fills the cellar drain well, >> then floods over an 8" sill right into the workshop. Ugghh... >> >> This has only been happening for the past two years, since we >> sealed off one of the pipes buried under the big back lawn >> because our neighbor was screaming about our water going in >> to his basement. No question but that we must undo this... The >> civil law says that no one may prevent water from traveling down >> from a higher elevation onto one's property. Measures have to be >> taken to make it workable, however. We may have to dig a trench >> the whole 126 ft across the back of the property, to spread out the >> water as it reaches there in a storm. And because of the fine >> plantings 3 ft in from that stone wall, it would have to be dug by >> hand. Not a jolly thought. >> >> Penny, NY zone 6 >> . >> . >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> Get the Internet just the way you want it. >> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.