Allen, I don't have to worry about being finished. My husband says if I get the area done I have planned I will just keep expanding. Now what gardener would ever do that??? (VBG) Actually it will never be finished as there will always be maintenance and I will always try new plants in place of those who don't do as well as I would like. But the "bones" of the garden, the hardscaping, trellises, arbors and water features hopefully will be pretty much in place in another couple of years. We are picking the rock up from a friends pasture (where there are a lot of Rattlesnakes) and hauling it home for the walks and patio areas so we pretty well limit those trips to the cooler early spring and early winter periods. We have about half of them done. Only another 1000 square feet approximately to lay in rock. Then probably at least 6 truck loads of larger boulders for the rock garden on the slope above the pond in the Japanese influenced garden. Isn't it funny how those who have rocks wish they didn't and those of us who don't----go try to kill ourselves hauling them home. Martha M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Merten <ajmerten@earthlink.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Who's out there? Martha, If you were finished, what would you do with your time? I am glad that my projects will be in progress for years to come. Allen Bastrop Co., SE Central Tx. Zone 8