Thanks George, Triangle it is. Silly of me not to recognise it. Lucinda, No not up north at the mo. After a year in Prince George with a part time job that didn't turn into a full time job last Sept. (budget probs - of course)! came back to Victoria and my darling grandson, now almost 5.!!!! Newest "want" from him are roller blades. Was requested to take off training wheels from his bike on the weekend. Growing up mush too fast. His peas, beans, sunflowers are up. He is so excited about his garden. Is out there early every am to check things out - just like all of us with our morning coffee. How are the iris? Ginny in Victoria, just back from seafront watching departure of US aircraft carrier, escorted by whale watching/sailboats/helicopters.