Hi all. Well, I'm here again...for those of you that remember me! I haven't participated any on gardens lists in quite some time - too much work, too little time. A case of where life got in the way. Although my participation will undoubtedly be limited, I'm getting involved in gardening again since I moved 1.5 years ago. And I have a couple of questions for you. I now live in the deep woods - the only gardening that I can really do is shade gardening. I can't even grow tomato plants! Not enough sun. I've been pretty successful "deer proofing" (so far). I have a feeding station for my 18 strong herd of deer away from my house with a salt block, a feeding block, and shell corn I buy for them every 2 weeks (they eat 100 lbs in 2 weeks!). Buying the corn (I'm in a corn-growing region) is LOTS cheaper than replacing plants. So far (after 1 year), they have totally left my rhodies, azalea, and mountain laurel alone! First, are there any good shade or woodlands garden listservs out there I could subscribe to? Second, talk to me about clematis that will grow in the shade. I know there *are* varieties. (Is Dick Tripp still around??) Hi to all my old friends here - Myra, Lucinda, Margaret, and many others too numerous to name! Don't even MENTION plants slugs will eat :) :) :). Private joke! Rosemary in the mountains of eastern KY zone 6a