Dear Tom and Bryon, Thanks so much for the clarification on the homemade bug spray. I shall tuck that recipe away for the day when I need it! Thanks for the suggestions about sucker growth on the blackberry plants. I shall keep them trimmed to the height of the overall bush. I'm keeping them at about 3 feet, as I read somewhere that that encouraged side branching in the Navaho thornless. Carolyn ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com