Hi Folks, I have a slightly odd question for you.. is it possible to have a 40' high holly tree in Southern California? The garden sites I checked talk about it as a southeastern tree, but say nothing about it as a southwestern tree. When I bought my 1928 house in February, I was told the tree was a white oak and endangered, and had to stay where it was. This meant I'd have to remove a palm tree in front of it because there wasn't room for both. There were no branches until 10-15 ft. up, so I didn't pay it much attention. We finally finished moving in mid-May, and this weekend, I started looking at the sucker growth all over the lower part of the tree to see what I had to do to clean it up, and realized... it's no oak! (I should have realized sooner, because there were dead spiny leaves that weren't decomposing all over the front yard.) The leaves are only 1-1/2 inches long by about 1 inch wide, with 12 tiny holly type spines around the margin and one at the tip of the leaf. They are not as shiny as the hollies I knew back East, and a little rounder. Could it be something else I don't know about yet? Thanks for any input! Carol .--------------------------------------. | Carol J. Bova bova@bovagems.com | | Sunland, California | '--------------------------------------'