George, Your conditions are al lot like mine. Things that do well in full sun can handle some shade for us. I do find that my roses need to get full sun in the afternoon to dry out the leaves after out afternoon rains. Do you get the same ocean effect where you are? If you don't get the afternoon rains your roses should do just fine. Mine are starting to leaf out and fill, but no blooms yet. Anne in FL zone 9b, sunset 26 ----- Original Message ----- From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Sunday in the garden > Wow! You really had a Sunday in the garden. I would like to start a rose bed in > my front yard but it is shaded almost completely from 1:30 pm until dark so that > the roses would only get partial sun in the afternoon. A neighbor down the > street has the same conditions and his tea roses do okay. I intend to plant > nothing but old and antique roses with fragrance so wonder if such a site would > work. Any ideas anyone? > > George > > Kari Whittenberger-Keith wrote: > > > > Chiming in from cooler climes. > > > > Here in the southern Willamette Valley, we had a Sunday that was perfect > > for gardening--warmish (50s) a bit overcast, with the sun peeking through > > from time to time. I went out to mow the lawn. Four hours later I had: > > mowed the lawn, weeded all the beds, cut back many of the perennials I had > > left up for the winter, built a new rose and perennial bed in my back yard, > > moved a bunch (20 maybe?) of plants from a bed that I will be redoing this > > year to a set of beds along the back fence. > > > > Now that the new bed is built, I can turn to ordering the roses--I now know > > how much space I actually have to work with. > > > > And I'm only a little bit sore this morning! > > > > Kari > > > > Kari Whittenberger-Keith > > kariwk@oregon.uoregon.edu > > Managing Editor, Old House Chronicle > > http://www.oldhousechronicle.com > > >