RE: [gardeners] Kieffer pear it is!!!

Seyfried,Alice (
Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:33:29 -0400

Thanks Lon. I'll occasionally cut one to check out those seeds. My husband
is due to rent a chipper/shredder this fall for the pile of branches
accumulating in the back - maybe I'll just clean it and use it for the pears
:) :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lon J. Rombough []
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Kieffer pear it is!!!

Be aware that many winter pears, such as D'Anjou, will not ripen if simply
picked green.  They have to spend time in a refrigerator - 8 weeks or so at
least - before they will soften and ripen when taken out.
    One way to tell when a pear is ripe is to look at the seeds.  Brown,
mature seeds mean ripe fruit in fall and winter varieties (Keiffer is a fall
variety, by deinition).  When pears start dropping, it is another sign that
they are mature and ready to pick.  Commercially, they use a pressure tester
- a device that measures how much pressure it takes to push a little rod
into the flesh of the fruit.  When the pressure drops below a certain value,
the fruit is mature enough to pick.
    If you don't cook Keiffer first, you might as well process it with a
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, more, plus word on my grape book at 

>From: "Seyfried,Alice" <>
>To: "''" <>
>Subject: [gardeners] Kieffer pear it is!!!
>Date: Mon, Jun 25, 2001, 7:43 AM

>Well, I did a search on the web for Kieffer Pear and, low-and-behold,
>there's my fruit! They look exactly like the pictures on this site - the
>splotches all over, some more round, some more "pear" shaped. There's even
>recipe for pear honey, so George, you don't need to dig yours out for me
>(unless it's different/better, of course). I'm so excited, I could jump!
>Now I just need to find me one of those pickers like they show here,
>because, of course, the most fruit is waayyy at the top of the tree. 
>Now one more question, well, actually 2. 
>1) How the heck do I tell when these things are ripe? All my ingrained
>training says to sqeeze pears, which of course, won't work with a Kieffer.
>2) The recipe for pear honey says to put the pears through a food grinder.
>We don't have a food grinder, but we do have a Victorio Strainer that we
>purchased just this year. Could I cook them first, then run them through
>that instead of grinding them first?
>Thanks again!!
>Alice - zone 5b-6
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Shirley []
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [gardeners] Re: Sunday in the garden [sic]
>They may be ripe Alice. I grow a Kieffer pear, it ends up round with a
>green skin and is hard as a rock when ripe. My folks always called them
>old canning pears." Sounds like that may be what you have. Pear trees also
>regular pruning to keep them producing properly a little well-rotted animal
>manure around the base early in the spring when they bloom is also
>If you wait for the fruit to fall off the tree it will almost always be
>by the time it hits the ground. Check with your county agent about type,
>species, and pruning.
>If it is a canning pear I have tons of recipes for canning pears, pear
>pear honey, pear butter, etc, etc.
>"Seyfried,Alice" wrote:
>> Eeek!!  No no no, please don't do that! I'm just a lurker, but I adore
>> list, so I will pipe up with a question about my pear tree that I've been
>> wanting to ask for a very long time.  I have no idea what variety it is,
>> it was planted before we bought our house. It is healthy however, and has
>> been kept in good shape. Every year it is totally **loaded** with pears.
>> problem is that the pears never ripen. They seem to go from hard as rocks
>> rotten. Now, we are not chemical people, and we're a bit lazy too, so
>> never sprayed this tree with anything. We live in central Ohio, zone
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for why the pears don't ripen.  We are
>> the point that we are thinking of taking the tree out because it attracts
>> wasps and bees like crazy. I'd put up with them if we could get some
>> but if we can't enjoy the pears, then the wasps can't either.
>> Thanks!
>> Alice - zone 5b-6
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: George Shirley []
>> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:53 PM
>> To: Gardeners List
>> Subject: [gardeners] Re: Sunday in the garden [sic]
>> There has been no gardeners mail for at least a week now. If volume
>> pick
>> up soon we will disband the list for lack of interest. Come on folks we
>> you're lurking out there. Is everyone busy gardening?
>> George
>> lneuru wrote:
>> >
>> > borrowing a leaf from George, here.  I have received no garden mail for
>> > awhile, several days, I think.  Am I still with you?
>> >
>> > We went out today for another bout of weeding.  I have been
>> > for almost 6 weeks but am more or less functional now.........and boy
>> > the garden enjoyed it's freedom while I've been laid up!  So far 6
>> > cans/bags full of weeds (too much to compost) and we are only about
>> halfway
>> > through a 50 by 150 yard.  It's been alternately hot, then rainy and
>> > ideal conditions for the stuff in this climate (Great Lakes).
>> >
>> > We found termites in our pressurized lumber raised beds, one, anyway,
>> we
>> > figure it's in more of them.  So much for making life better through
>> > chemicals.  I'm sending Len off the Canadian Tire for lots of termite
>> > poison. - we don't use pesticides but we are going to make an exception
>> > here.  And we are going to replace wood with stone, just as soon as the
>> > bugs are dead.
>> >
>> > We now have a red squirrel; he ate all the sunflower seeds in the bird
>> > feeder, then ate the bird feeder.  They are very destructive little
>> > beasts....all my high falutin precepts about wildlife and gun control
>> > cities etc.etc. are being replaced with dreams of h-bombing this
>> > creature......add to that the skunk we had removed from under our porch
>> > (2nd year in a row - she found the tiniest, moveable brick in the
>> > and the possum who has moved in somewhere in the back 40.  Aren't they
>> > supposed to be southern creatures? So far no #$%^& groundhogs, but I
>> > they'll be next.
>> >
>> > What is happening up here is that we are just the tiniest bit warmer
>> > last few years, that and the animals are being presssured by
>> > ciites.  We are and have been town for over 100 years here, but near a
>> very
>> > large railway allowance and a conservation area, and a big park.  So I
>> > guess we look like the woods.  We have more wildlife here than we do
>> > east on the farm where we *are* woods, almost.
>> >
>> > The weeding was somewhat satisfying, but I ached badly in the
>> > aspirin did nothing so finally resorted to hot water in the shower,
>> on
>> > the bum shoulder, and that did the trick.
>> >
>> > So life has returned to good - another leaf from George.
>> >
>> > Lucinda