Yes, George, I think we did too much work yesterday, judging by how tired we both were today.. I found half a pink dogwood dead and had to prune it off; Jim found an amazing bunch of weeds hiding at the front door. And the only visible thing that we did was to plant one lablab vine, already growing in a pot, at the front post. Some 15 years ago or so, I planted 3 houtania (I believe), with green, red and perhaps cream leaves. They did not get enough sun, and so they reverted to all green and boring. They got shovel-pruned. Each year in spring, I pluck out perhaps 4 or 5 of these plants which have sprung up, and that's that. Today I wanted to work in the Japanese garden, and was startled to discover about 17 houtania all with pretty white blossoms on the top, standing tall right thru the dense evergreen ground cover on the berm! First of all, they resist pulling. Secondly, I can barely reach most of them. Thirdly, they look kinda cool where they are ..... question is: if I leave them, wonder how many hundreds will come up next year...??? Penny, NY . . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.