I raise dairy goats and therefore usually toss out more milk than we could ever use in cheese and soapmaking projects. (And we do drink a lot of it too.) HOWEVER, beware using too much milk. I use it as a weed killer along fencerows! In small amounts it's probably great, (or your roses would have told you by now). But the fats in it must be what break down and kill plant roots. Also, (voice of experience here), I'd occasionally give my peach trees and other yard plants a 'glug' of milk along the root zone. Fine on occasion, but the one time I (wasn't thinking), had made a quick set cheese (vinegar curd), and dumped the whey around a group of antique Sweet Olive bushes, within 3 days they all died. Apparently a 1/4 cup of vinegar goes a long way when it's put in milk. And George, thanks for the Ponderosa hints. Don't know why mine are dry, maybe I'm too stingy with the waterhose. Will see if more deep soakings result in better (juicier) fruit. How tall will these guys get? I have to whack the top out of mine because it's direct planted in a covered grow area (uncovered all spring/summer, greenhouse in winter) and it will get 15' overnight it seems. Oh, and it never quits fruiting! Not seasonal at all, it might have clusters of flowers all over it and the limbs bent double with big lemons at the same time. Do I need to pluck the small ones to give it an occasional rest? And 'football sized' was the Florida nursery boast I got it from. This one usually produces fruit about the size of acorn squash. We also bought a kumquat that probably hasn't grown 1/2 inch in 6 years! It bears fruit so I haven't had the courage to move it. What growing conditions do kumquats like? Martha, (Texas) Visit our Paso Fino Club: www.TxPFHA.org Visit our farm:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5505/index.html