Re: [gardeners] Applesauce/basil
Elizabeth (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:00:15 -0700
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Yep! Sounds like our nasty soil. I've heard Barky Beaver is good. I'm =
glad to hear that hydrangeas will do well--I've planted a snowball =
(viburnum opulus). We have a lot of redbuds growing all by themselves =
on the edge of the woods, and they were beautiful this spring. To add =
to the spring show, we planted 2 crabapples, 3 Yoshino cherries, a =
Kwanzan cherry, and 3 different lilacs. =20
I hope the cherries will do all right, as I've read they don't like wet =
feet. I put a lot of bark in the planting holes for aeration, and they =
are planted on slightly sloped areas for drainage.
For fall color, we planted an Autumn Blaze and a Red Sunset maple. I'd =
like an October Glory. I love the names.
We also put out a viburnum juddii this spring. Its leaves have =
gradually turned a sort of yellowy-green, and I'm afraid it doesn't like =
the clay soil, which is staying too wet with all the rain we've had =
lately. I thought I might try fertilizing it in case it's a nutrient =
deficiency.
Deer are overruning our area, also. They bit the branches off a nice =
Star Magnolia I had and just left the branches lying on the ground. =
It's still alive, but not by much. They've also nipped all the lower =
branches of the other trees we've planted this year. I hope eventually =
to try some deer netting around the perimeter of the garden area.
Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net
Zone 6, KY =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rosemary Carlson=20
To: gardeners@globalgarden.com=20
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: [gardeners] Applesauce/basil
Hi Elizabeth! Glad to hear you're doing well. I thought the soil in =
Lexington was bad. Jeez! The soil on top of this mountain in eastern KY =
is solid clay. Amend it? You can't hardly amend it - it's like concrete! =
The only real "bed" I have is along the entire front of my house where I =
use alot of shade perennials mixed among rhodies and azaleas. What I've =
done is put as much pine bark mulch as soil (or more) in the bed and in =
every hole I dig. I also use a landscaping mix - it's called Barky =
Beaver and you can only get it at Hillenmeyer's but it is WORTH =
it......if you can mix it with the clay. I've successfully gotten the =
shade perennials to grow but I killed an oakleaf hydrangea :( because I =
didn't amend the soil enough :(. I've also gotten a witch hazel, 2 =
pussywillows, all kinds of hydrangea (except the oakleaf and that was my =
fault!), mountain laurel, redbud, etc. to grow. I also have a Henryii =
clematis that is actually GROWING! Planted it this spring -- thinking it =
would NOT make it due to the soil AND lack of sun but it's doing well so =
far and has even had a couple of blooms. That's a clematis you might try =
in your soil. Hydrangeas, BTW, LOVE the clay as they can sit in water =
for as long as they like. :)
Deer are a huge problem here - actually, they aren't a problem as I =
feel like this is their land that they are allowing me to live on! :) =
But, they do play havoc with plants. I feed the deer at a feeding =
station some distance from my house. That cuts down on damage somewhat. =
But, if I forget to feed them one day.....well, I think they punish me =
by munching on my plants. They DON'T like hydrangea or rhodies FWIW.=20
Thanks for the advice about pruning the wisteria. I hear they =
sometimes take YEARS to bloom. This is the first year for mine and the =
vine has grown to the roof!! Right up the downspout! I hope it will =
bloom in the spring but realize it may be too soon.
Keep in touch!
Rosemary, zone 6a, on top of a mountain in Eastern KY........where it =
is not NEARLY as hot as it used to feel in Lexington!=20
Freelance writer and columnist
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com =
[mailto:owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:59 PM
To: gardeners@globalgarden.com
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Applesauce/basil
Rosemary,
Hi! Re: the best time to prune wisteria--we did it right after it =
flowered so we wouldn't accidently cut off the next year's blooms.
How are you coping with your lovely Eastern KY clay? Are you =
amending your planting beds, amending planting holes, using raised beds? =
=20
We used to have wonderful soil in Georgetown. We're finally =
building our new house on 10 acres of some of the worst soil in the =
area. We've planted a lot of trees directly in the "soil" (does it even =
deserve that term?) and just added a little pink bark mulch in the hole =
for aeration. I'm thinking raised beds will be the way to go for my =
perennials and annuals.
Have you found any plants that do particularly well for you in your =
location, now that you've been there for a while?
Great to hear from you!
Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net
Zone 6, KY
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Yep! Sounds like our nasty =
soil. I've=20
heard Barky Beaver is good. I'm glad to hear that hydrangeas will do well--I've planted a snowball =
(viburnum=20
opulus). We have a lot of redbuds growing all by themselves on the =
edge of=20
the woods, and they were beautiful this spring. To add to the =
spring show,=20
we planted 2 crabapples, 3 Yoshino cherries, a Kwanzan cherry, and 3 =
different=20
lilacs.
I hope the cherries will do all right, =
as I've read=20
they don't like wet feet. I put a lot of bark in the planting =
holes for=20
aeration, and they are planted on slightly sloped areas for=20
drainage.
For fall color, we planted an Autumn =
Blaze and a=20
Red Sunset maple. I'd like an October Glory. I love the=20
names.
We also put out a viburnum juddii this=20
spring. Its leaves have gradually turned a sort of yellowy-green, =
and I'm=20
afraid it doesn't like the clay soil, which is staying too wet with all =
the rain=20
we've had lately. I thought I might try fertilizing it in case =
it's a=20
nutrient deficiency.
Deer are overruning our area, =
also. They bit=20
the branches off a nice Star Magnolia I had and just left the branches =
lying on=20
the ground. It's still alive, but not by much. They've also =
nipped=20
all the lower branches of the other trees we've planted this =
year. I=20
hope eventually to try some deer netting around the perimeter of the =
garden=20
area.
Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net<=
/DIV>
Zone 6, KY
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
Rosemary =
Carlson=20
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 =
2:44=20
PM
Subject: RE: [gardeners]=20
Applesauce/basil
Hi=20
Elizabeth! Glad to hear you're doing well. I thought the soil in =
Lexington was=20
bad. Jeez! The soil on top of this mountain in eastern KY is solid =
clay. Amend=20
it? You can't hardly amend it - it's like concrete! The only real =
"bed" I have=20
is along the entire front of my house where I use alot of shade =
perennials=20
mixed among rhodies and azaleas. What I've done is put as much pine =
bark mulch=20
as soil (or more) in the bed and in every hole I dig. I also use a =
landscaping=20
mix - it's called Barky Beaver and you can only get it at =
Hillenmeyer's but it=20
is WORTH it......if you can mix it with the clay. I've successfully =
gotten the=20
shade perennials to grow but I killed an oakleaf hydrangea :( because =
I didn't=20
amend the soil enough :(. I've also gotten a witch hazel, 2 =
pussywillows, all=20
kinds of hydrangea (except the oakleaf and that was my fault!), =
mountain=20
laurel, redbud, etc. to grow. I also have a Henryii clematis that is =
actually=20
GROWING! Planted it this spring -- thinking it would NOT make it due =
to the=20
soil AND lack of sun but it's doing well so far and has even had a =
couple of=20
blooms. That's a clematis you might try in your =
soil.=20
Hydrangeas, BTW, LOVE the clay as they can sit in water for as long as =
they=20
like. :)
Deer=20
are a huge problem here - actually, they aren't a problem as I feel =
like this=20
is their land that they are allowing me to live on! :) But, they do =
play havoc=20
with plants. I feed the deer at a feeding station some distance from =
my house.=20
That cuts down on damage somewhat. But, if I forget to feed them one=20
day.....well, I think they punish me by munching on my plants. They =
DON'T like=20
hydrangea or rhodies FWIW.
Thanks for the advice about pruning the =
wisteria. I=20
hear they sometimes take YEARS to bloom. This is the first year for =
mine and=20
the vine has grown to the roof!! Right up the downspout! I hope it =
will bloom=20
in the spring but realize it may be too soon.
Keep=20
in touch!
Rosemary, zone 6a, on top of a mountain in =
Eastern=20
KY........where it is not NEARLY as hot as it used to feel in =
Lexington!=20
Freelance writer and =
columnist
=
Rosemary,
Hi! Re: the best time =
to prune=20
wisteria--we did it right after it flowered so we wouldn't =
accidently cut=20
off the next year's blooms.
How are you coping with your lovely =
Eastern KY=20
clay? Are you amending your planting beds, amending planting =
holes,=20
using raised beds?
We used to have wonderful soil in=20
Georgetown. We're finally building our new house on 10 acres =
of some=20
of the worst soil in the area. We've planted a lot of trees =
directly=20
in the "soil" (does it even deserve that term?) and just added a =
little pink=20
bark mulch in the hole for aeration. I'm thinking raised beds =
will be=20
the way to go for my perennials and annuals.
Have you found any plants that do =
particularly=20
well for you in your location, now that you've been there for a=20
while?
Great to hear from =
you!
Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net<=
/DIV>
Zone 6, KY
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