Re: [gardeners] Applesauce/basil

George Shirley (
Mon, 06 Aug 2001 12:18:14 -0500

I take 30 units of 70/30 insulin about 8 pm each night. I'm the type of diabetic whose pancreas
makes plenty of insulin but the cell walls are resistant to it coming through and "burning" the
sugar. When it does overload it does it all at once. Once I started treating sugar as any other
carbohydrate my blood sugar pretty much equalized and I no longer have night sweats or go hypo more
than once every two or three months, particularly if I miss a meal. I also take metformin three
times a day so I do take meds. Diet and exercise didn't work at all for me.

If it makes you feel better (didn't make me feel better) my doctors say there are probably as many
types of diabetes as there are types of arthritis and all have to be treated differently. Do what's
best for you and be sure you have a doctor that lets you have input into your treatment. I started
getting better when I took charge of my medical treatment and found doctors who like that kind of
patient. What the heck, it's our bodies and minds that need healing.


Rosemary Carlson wrote:
> George and all: You have that diabetic reaction to no sugar because (I
> assume) you're on insulin so you go hypoglycemic and crash out. For us Type
> II diabetics NOT on insulin, hypoglycemia is more rare....I'm NEVER
> hypoglycemic! Instead, I'm constantly fighting the high end of the scale.
> It's a lot harder for Type II diabetics NOT on insulin to eat any sugar than
> those ON insulin as you actually have better control of your blood sugar
> when you're on insulin.
> I know that current thinking puts sugar in the category of just another
> carb. My answer to that? YEAH RIGHT. My oral meds are not enough to take
> care of metabolizing ANY sugar. I seem to do OK with the sugar from natural
> fruit - in reasonable quantities. Refined sugar - forget it. My blood sugar
> is 400. Bread/starch is almost as bad but OK in very small quantities. So, I
> put sugar in NOTHING nor do I eat any (unless I fall off the wagon and am
> being bad which happens frequently). Fats in very large quantities do the
> same.
> So, what do I eat in my attempts to stay off the needle. Celery. :)
> Seriously - lots of veggies. Some fruit. Chicken and fish. Not alot else! :)
> There are REAL differences in treatment/diet of Type II diabetics that are
> on insulin and those of us trying to control through diet/exercise and oral
> meds......or that's been my experience. Sometimes I ENVY people in my family
> who are on insulin and can eat a piece of pie once in awhile! But, then
> again, I do not want to go on insulin unless it is absolutely necessary.
> Rosemary
> George wrote:
> Current thinking in diabetic diets is that sugar is just another
> carbohydrate. I calculate the
> amount of carbs in it into my diet and have no increased blood sugar. When I
> went to artificial
> sweeteners only I kept going hypoglysemic (low blood sugar) in my sleep.
> Scared the hell out of Miz
> Anne when I would spazz out and start convulsing. Scared me too. Went back
> to small amounts of sugar
> as part of the diet and hasn't happened since. I'm a type II diabetic and
> the local diabetic
> specialist says I'm Syndrome X diabetic, older male with a pot belly and
> heart problems. Where do
> they get these names for diseases? <VBG>
> You can get some diabetic recipes off the net from the various diabetes
> foundations and others, even
> SOAR and the other recipe archives have some. Do a web search and you'll
> probably get more than you
> can ever use.
> George