George, we tend to think of everyone's weather in terms of our own, more or less. I don't feel as if we ever had a spring, and we certainly did not have an ordinary summer. Yes, I think one week of hot and terribly humid, but in general, nada ... Right now it is freezing -- our metabolisms must have aged radically because it has not been so hot that our blood thinned, and therefore we never should require the heat on in the house, the way we have it! The mandevilla and lablab are still beautiful, even with the 45* nights, as I mentioned awhile back. And the big flower bed looks rather chaotic since the plants grew into each other, natural style, but it does give the yard color, and that's welcome. The rhodies we moved a few weeks ago look wonderful! And down on the end there's an overflow bed where we put all my extra seedlings, and all those rooted coleus cuttings which were so late getting into the ground that they had lost all their lower leaves and looked ratty. Today they are a lush jungle of color, ALL filled in (they grew fresh lower leaves!) and it looks wonderful! The bed is fronted by my hundreds of self-seeded volunteer blue ageratum from last year's big flower bed, some no larger than a quarter when I carefully scooped them up.. There's yet another bed back there with more of those volunteer itsy-bitsies which now are full grown. Somehow it is more fun to see and smile at the flowers which one has cultivated herself... But in all it must have generally been cool. The raspberries have stood still for weeks -- the berries are fully developed, but not ripening, and this is VERY late for the crop. The other bed of New Guinea hybrid impatiens stopped growing at half their usual size. My 2 foo dogs are placed there at the entrance, and normally the New Guineas grow so tall that I have to add bricks underneath the foo dogs to elevate them enough to be seen! I have to be careful what we prune this weekend. The 4 ilex hedges, yes -- they grow so thick and fast that they torment me! But wherever I find an azalea which should be removed, I am waiting until spring. I want the sickly plant to help support its healthy neighbors from the weight of the winter snow. Still so much to do -- guess I'd better get out my winter underwear.. Penny, NY zone 6 . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.