Good heavens, Ron -- no, I am not in Rancho Mirage right now! I am more obviously right in Rancho Westchester. The air is getting crisp, the wind is up, and the leaves are turning red. I salvaged my five very special ornamental pelargoniums (geraniums) two days ago, just in time! Gino reports that it poured all day Saturday down in St.Louis and then turned very chilly on Sunday. He proposes to leave the green passion fruit on the vine until the temps threaten to sink below 33*. We don't know which cultivar he has, so do you think I should encourage him to pick them (still green) if it gets below 45*...? Say -- perhaps he should do half and half.....? I had no idea about those 'firebugs'. One more incident of man's inhumanity to man. Penny . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.