Dear Ms. Rateaver: You seem to miss the point, entirely. This list is more of an online family, one very much interested in gardening, but also in each other. We, as a group, share a passion for gardening, but also delight in each other's online company, the human element, if you will. Gardeners are, in the final analysis, PEOPLE. To me, the very human interaction here is what gives this group life and makes it enjoyable, not merely the discussion of roses and rhubarb, and the like. Ron, Van Nuys, CA