Carolyn, heeheehee, no, we did not use a stick for devining... We chose the rear corner of the property and I guess we were pounding in some sort of special tools, can't quite recall. When we were ready to give up, a pal of ours also with a bent for do-it-yourself projects, came over and kept on pounding. Sorry to say, we got nowhere. We really should have put 2 & 2 together, though. Half a block away is reportedly the highest plot of land in our village . . . We think of ourselves as being at sea level, for we are only 4 miles from the Atlantic Ocean -- but somehow, the road from here to there must elevate a wee bit. The other fact that I know about this area is that all along the shore line there is a solid ridge of underground rock -- any house built within the first 3 miles inland does not have a basement, because of this. We have a basement. Just at what level the water sits under us, is anybody's guess ..... Penny, NY . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.