While I was on the helicopter going to the hospital in the middle of my first heart attack I used self-hypnosis to get away from the pain. Woke up to find they had a thumper on me and were giving me CPR. Nurse said my blood pressure, pulse, and respiration were so low they were afraid I was dying. Ended up being part of a gubmint study for the next 5 years. Concensus - no proof of anything paranormal but that I did have the ability to go into a deep trance upon need. Had been doing self-hypnosis since I was about 10 years old so wasn't surprised. Not so sure about the ESP though. I went through a study at Duke University about 40 some odd years ago and missed all of the cards. I thought that meant I had no ESP but the Rhine Institute docs said it was proof I had it in spades as I avoided giving right answers. Said chance would have given me 50/50 right and wrong. Me, I don't know, I just know that occasionally I get glimpses of things that startle me at the time. Miz Anne thinks I can read her mind but I think it's being together for 44 years come June. We met and fell in love in June of 1958. George bsk wrote: > > I used bent metal rods to find our well in Ark. I have no idea if we could > have found one some place else or what all I know is we didn't have the > normal indications of water since it was a clearing on the side of a hill so > we decided to try it. We got plenty of water. > Grandpa Brown always said look at the trees like oak and see how they > reach to the ground for water and you will find water. I guess for that > matter if you would look at the type of trees that are growing in the area > that may also indicate where you would have a good chance on water. Maples, > cottonwood, willow and pecan are just a few that like moist areas you could > try. > I have tried the rods and have found water pipe in dirt and in a > cement floor house. As far as the ESP things goes yes I do have that and > have proven it to my family too many times. Strange stuff that ESP I learn > something new every day about it still haven't figured it out. Anyone I > think can do it if you listen to your body/ inner self. > > Ranchmama > Okie zone 7a > *************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Shirley" <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [gardeners] finding wells > > > Everything I've ever read that scientists wrote about divining has > debunked it as having no basis in > > merit. Not withstanding, I have seen it done, done it myself, and believe > in it still without > > understanding how it is done. My wife sincerely thinks I have ESP because > I would come in just > > before she would open the door to call me for meals. I think that was just > habit on my part and a > > belief in my mental abilities on her part. <VBG> > > > > George > > > > olin wrote: > > > > > > To find water here in the low AZ desert, one needs to go down several > > > thousand feet but I understand you can usually find it if you go deep > > > enough. An acquaintance of mine teaches dowsing as a non credit course > > > at a local junior college. But as he teaches it, it is more of a > > > spiritual thing having to do with emotional and physical health. I took > > > the course but I'm still not sure I understand it ( I'm sure I still > > > don't understand it). There is an "American Society of Dowsers" sited > > > at http://dowsers.new-hampshire.net/ that has lots > > > divining and dowsing links. -Olin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Shirley" > > > <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > > > > I use two bent welding rods in soda bottles. Never had a problem > > > finding water, water in pipes, oil > > > > in pipes, etc. I can't tell you how deep the water is or many gpm it > > > will flow but my Grandmother > > > > Shirley could. I believe water witching is a possibility because I can > > > do it but can't tell you how. > > > >