Re: [gardeners] Wednesday, pretty close to the garden
lneuru@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:30:41 -0400
And celts in western China---Tarim Basin folk. Lucinda
> Yeah, I have followed that site in the magazines, TV, and internet,
> pretty interesting. Lots of other sites in North America that can be
> related to European visits BCC, Before Christoro Colombo. It's also
> well known that Chinese and Japanese seafarers landed on the west
> coast of North America long ago, many of the PNW First Nations people
> share blood with them. Then there's the recent discovery of round
> headed European type skulls and skeletons in, IIRC, Washington State
> or Oregon. Interesting times ahead for those of us interested in such
> things.
>
> George
>
> lneuru@watarts.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
> >
> > Shucks Margaret, why don't you just speak up there? <VBG> You and I
> > are old enough to remember the NEBC (No Europeans Before Columbus)
> > group of historians, archaeologists, anthropologists too. Now it is
> > accepted theory that yes, Virginia, there were Europeans in the New
> > World before Chris Columbus,
> >
> > In Canada, George:Newfoundland, a place today known as L'Anse aux
> > Meadows. NW tip of Newf. A 9th century Viking settlement was found,
> > complete with runes, which dated the place to Eric the red or was it
> > lief erikson or are these the same guys??? oh, I should go check
> > but too lazy right this minute. The exciting thing is the refs in
> > the runes tie into some of the norse sagas which we all thought were
> > bs when we read them in school.
> > None of this was discovered before the 80s, which puts an awful
> > lot of us in
> > the no Europeans before Columbus camp.
> >
> > also Asians and possibly Africans.
> > Australian Aborigines, I would doubt that myself. Pacific Islanders,
> > no doubt at all.
> >
> > I though Pacific Islanders were related to the Abos...where is Evil
> > John these days? He should know, and even if he doesn't I'm sure he
> > would venture an opinion:)).
> >
> > Lucinda
> >
> > George
> >
> > Margaret Lauterbach wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been thinking of you, Lucinda. Is school out yet? We
> > > recently watched a program on a digital Discovery channel about
> > > early population of parts of Brazil and the southern tip (name
> > > escapes me at the moment). French archaeologists were claiming
> > > that descendants of Australian aborigines settled Brazil 12 to
> > > 15,000 years ago IIRC (anyway, it was earlier than the usual
> > > 11,000 years that I've read), having crossed the Pacific Ocean
> > > then,not being content to be on solid ground, hiked across the
> > > northern tip of South America to settle in the Amazon basin. Then
> > > they migrated southward, serving as the Tierra del Fuegan
> > > "Indians." I sat there, turned to Chuck and said "this is
> > > bullshit. I'm changing channels." Are these French archaeologists
> > > (female) as whacko as I think, or is it me? Margaret L
> > >
> > > >What old roses do you have George?
> > > >
> > > >Lucinda