Hi, George, We, too, are in zone 9b, but, then again, that admits of a wide variety of interpretation. Sunset magazine has us pegged as SZ 18, too hot and too cold to grow fuchsias, but we have had one flourishing in shade for 4 years. Various bulb purveyors say Chinese Trumpet Lilies will only perform to zone 8, but we have two 7 footers blooming for the 4th year in a row...and multiplying. Oh, yeah, our Easter lilies are just finishing blooming. Not supposed to have great success with them, either. Hereabouts, in our microclimate, we have about 4 nights of freezing temps a year, with most nights in the 38-50 range through the "winter months." Panamint has done very well for us, indeed; maybe it will for you, too. Are there any local fruit groups/orgs that might be able to give you some good advice? It's worth a try, since the fruit is indescribably delicious...a cross between honey and liquid sunshine. Ron