Nope, no local fruit grower groups, just an extension service geared to either handle large farms and ranches or little old ladies with flower beds. Nothing sort of in between. Heck, I even argue with our extension agent over which zone we're in, he's new and still thinks we're in zone 8, even when you show him the map. Much as I would like to grow another fruit tree I just don't have much room. Going to have to move the loquat anyway as it isn't getting enough sunshine over behind the greenhouse and sandwiched in between the elderberries and a very large gardenia. George Ron Hay wrote: > > Hi, George, > > We, too, are in zone 9b, but, then again, that admits of a wide variety > of interpretation. Sunset magazine has us pegged as SZ 18, too hot and > too cold to grow fuchsias, but we have had one flourishing in shade for > 4 years. > > Various bulb purveyors say Chinese Trumpet Lilies will only perform to > zone 8, but we have two 7 footers blooming for the 4th year in a > row...and multiplying. Oh, yeah, our Easter lilies are just finishing > blooming. Not supposed to have great success with them, either. > > Hereabouts, in our microclimate, we have about 4 nights of freezing > temps a year, with most nights in the 38-50 range through the "winter > months." > > Panamint has done very well for us, indeed; maybe it will for you, too. > Are there any local fruit groups/orgs that might be able to give you > some good advice? It's worth a try, since the fruit is indescribably > delicious...a cross between honey and liquid sunshine. > > Ron