George, you ain't far wrong with Jimmie trying to shovel water since we had no snow -- we have had three pits in the back yard where last year Jim had been digging, and they remain filled with water no matter what we do... Have had a bunch of contractors in, plus a gardener and a tree surgeon, trying to find a solution for the water backup, and nobody agrees. In the end perhaps in October we will have a 'curtain drain' installed, hoping to decoy the water and keep it from standing at the surface. One contractor quoted us $3,000 for the drain, but strongly advised us to get a gardener to do it instead, because they don't pay their men as much money ... He of course had no idea that this is the first year in history that we do have a gardener -- to mow the lawn, that's all -- because Jimmie no longer can walk that much, nor could he handle the bending and lifting involved with emptying the grass bag. [The gardener uses a mulching mower and lets it drop.] Jimmie is weeding by sitting on his behind, a rather slow process but at least he feels that he is contributing. And we have more-or-less completed the Netafim soaker hose re-installation in the front foundation to accommodate the new plants, which was a very big job for Jim's shoulder muscles. One more main water supply line must be shortened and buried, and a coil of excess 12-wire line must be buried because he doesn't want to have to splice all those wires .... The last thing will be to have my wonderful Mexican father & son combo come in on their day off to spread 11 yards of top mulch (shredded bark). It's taken WAY too long to get this job done, but then I guess that if one manages to reach 80 years of age, something's gotta give ....<g>.... Penny, NY . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.