Marc, what you are describing is the same as insurance rules on a leaking shower pan. They will pay to replace the pan and any rotted timbers underneath, but they will not pay to re-tile the shower they have just ripped apart! The insurance thing is very confusing -- we had hurricane damage a few years ago, and our insurance company was incredibly generous. To start with, my attic was too warm. After 40 years on the floor,the insulation had flattened itself and was not doing its job. Therefore, when the ice (and snow) froze to the slate roof, the underside of the ice melted down. The tar paper (or whatever that barrier is) bled orange water down the outside of my white house. What an unholy mess! Jim hooked up a garden hose to the kitchen sink, and fastened some kind of 9 ft pole to the end of the hose, and we ran hot water out and up to the roof line -- and holy toledo! the dye washed off! We were very fortunate because in our anxiety we neglected to photograph the bizarre scene, and the insurance company (State Farm) allowed it anyway. We had bubbles coming thru the dining room plaster ceiling, and water inside both kitchen windows and frames. There was standing water in parts of the attic! My regular house painters are European-trained and old fashioned men proud of their trade. State Farm allowed them to repair and repaint and rebuild every single request I wrote down. It was a miracle... We added fresh attic insulation just as soon as the area got dry, so now that particular set of events cannot repeat itself. Nevertheless, when my neighbor's 70 ft pine fractured in half and came tunbling down onto my foundation planting, I had to pay the $550 to have it removed. The law says if it lands in my yard, it's my problem. Very ridiculous law! NOW Jimmie says that if the branch is still attached to the tree but falls into my yard, the OWNER must pay to remove it. We did not know that -- and it is too late to negotiate a payment from the neighbors, because they have moved away .... This week's Christmas snow storm has caused havoc in my area. Gigantic trees have fallen into power and telephone lines -- and I cannot believe how my tall shrubbery has been mashed to the ground! If the local people have enough money at their disposal next spring, the garden nurseries will have a boom year. Penny, NY . ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com