>snip> >And a question for Margaret -- Are the OP varieties you mentioned (I >confess, I'm not sure what open pollenation is) large tomatoes or are >some cherries? I do agree with you about the "hybrid" seed issue. I >gather my own seed every year and am often told "that's not supposed to >work", but it's fun to experiment and so far the results have been good! > >I'm getting long-winded here! The iced-tea break is over -- better get >back to the garden. > >Pat >Zone 7, Maryland > The Gardeners Delight is an open-pollinated cherry tomato, and Black Krim, Pruden's Purple, Watermelon Beefsteak and Dinner Plate are large tomatoes. Dinner Plate allegedly is large enough to cover a dinner plate, but that's an exaggeration. In my garden it looks like a partly deflated balloon, but the flavor is outstanding. All of the above have outstanding flavor, the Watermelon Beefsteak the poorest of the lot, and that's better than hybrid beefsteaks IMO. Open pollinated means the flowers produce fruits that will come true from seeds. Hybrids are cross-pollinated, so if you plant hybrid seeds you may end up with a grandparent with a very tough hide, developed for shipping (one with cannonball-itis). Or any other less than desirable characteristic. Chuck Wyatt has different flavor favorites, undoubtedly, but I'm sure he's familiar with those I've listed. You ought to break the hybrid habit and at least try some OP tomatoes. There's a huge difference in flavor. Margaret