Hi Margaret, I know that to a certain extent, I'm "preaching to the choir" in this case but there seem to be enough "newbies" for me to justify getting out the ole explanation dossier. Please accept the fact that I am stricken with Macular Degeneration and my vision becomes increasingly poorer. I'll have to do this in parts so please understand if it is disjointed. My family used to spend part of each Summer in our old home at Lynnwood, Virginia, where Madison Run reaches the Shenandoah River. A cousin, Samuel Hance Lewis IV, farmed what was once a part of the Lewis holdings which were originally deeded to Merriweather Lewis of Lewis and Clarke. Sam's tomatoes were outstanding and I longed for them when away from Lynnwood. Until World War II it was the normal policy for seed companies to stabilize any hybrid varieties before putting them on the market. This required anywhere from three to thirty generations and some varieties just wouldn't stabilize. Considerable costs were borne by the seed companies in these sometimes futile endeavors. The money factor soon overtook responsible action and breeders stopped "finishing" their work. An exception is Jeff McCormack, PHD, owner of Southern Exposure Seed Exchange. Jeff's Red Mortgage Lifter is one of, if not my absolute favorite tomato. It is not an heirloom but it has been stabilized. After The War the improvement in our transportation system developed a need for tomatoes that would withstand mechanical harvesting as well as cross country shipping. As a result of major breeding programs, varieties with tougher skins and harder flesh were developed. Flavor was not a major consideration and was all but lost in this process. Another legal decision declaring that hybrids could be patented while open pollinated varieties were a part of the public domain and could not be patented. There was also a proviso limiting production of new OP varieties called the Plant Protection Act. Pat Moody and Carey Fowler document the loss of germ plasm as well as the rape of the seed business by large conglomerates in their book, "Shattering." ( ISBN 0-8165-1181-0 by the University of Arizona Press,) It's good reading. When I retired from the Air Force in 1977 I moved to the Shenandoah Valley, my old family home territory. Alas, I found no better tomatoes than I had found over the rest of the globe. Sam Lewis still grew tomatoes but they were Better Boy and Early Girl. During the next ten years or so I tried a minimum of 20 varieties each year, each of them hybrid, Then I happened upon a seed rack at "Montecello", Thomas Jefferson's old home. The rack contained varieties said to have been grown by Jefferson as well as other heirloom tomato varieties. The company was Southern Exposure Seed Exchange and the varieties were superb! I also saw mention of Seed Savers' Exchange which I also joined. Since then I have been growing in the neighborhood of 100 varieties a year and I have drifted away from the hybrids which I find to have a remarkable similarity. Floramerica was one of the varieties I trialed and I found it to be very disease resistant although unremarkable otherwise. I suspect many of the so called modern hybrids have actually become open pollinated and Dona is one that comes to mind. I tried it as both an open pollinated and a hybrid variety nd can't tell the difference. I feel pressure should be applied to encourage the breeders to stabilize their best varieties. Otherwise, the hybrids will continue to only exist at the pleasure of the patent holders and extinct is forever. I now have a collection of something exceeding 400 heirloom varieties which I maintain using a four year rotation. I consider maintaining what is left of what are arguably the best tomatoes ever grown to be a worthwhile hobby and will continue to do so as long as my vision permits. I do send seed to anyone for $1.00 per packet to defray my costs and anyone who likes can E mail a postal address to me for those purposes. As a matter of curiosity, after Sam Lewis' death Tommy Dillworth found a fruit jar containing some tomato seeds in Sam's old farm "Avonfeld." I have grown out a fine med/large red tomato from that seed and now am in a position to introduce the "Lynnwood" tomato. Good gardening, Chuck Wyatt