Re: [tomato] Re: Paul, Superthrive & list signatures

fatcat (
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 22:51:05 GMT

On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:50:15 -0500, you wrote:

>Paul,  I'm not an advocate of the product SUPERTHRIVE, like I posted
>earlier, their ads look like snake oil.  But when I did a search on it, I
>came upon many orchid and carnivorous plant discussion groups debating it.
>Most seemed to have a positive attitude about it.
>I never, however heard directly from anyone using them on tomatoes, or
>vegetables.  It supposedly contains vitamins b-1, rooting hormones, and 50
>other vitamins.  Supposedly many federal and state govts. use it.  My friend
>was at a plant show and he bought some.  It supposedly has been around for
>40 years, and although I am not in the business, I was surprised that I
>never heard of it before.
>Anyway, I am trying it on my vegetable garden, and everything is "thriving".
>Whether it is from the superthrive or not I do not know because I am not
>using separate control veggies.  The only problem I've had was with my Santa
>f1 seedlings that I started myself.  They were very leggy, and I'm convinced
>it's because they didn't get enough light.
>With all the experience and expertise on this discussion group, I thought I
>would find someone who has also tried it.  I also wonder if it would be
>useful or detrimental to use it in combo with the VAM Fungi that has
>generated much discussion.
>You asked me for the website, and here it is:
>      Again, the ad looks like snake oil,
>perhaps that adds to the charm to folksy people.
>Also a humble suggestion to list members, I belong to a wildlife list, and
>all members sign their postings with their name, agricultural zone #, and
>their living area....that is the way I sign mine.  It helps because it lets
>the reader know where you live and how it affects the answers or questions
>you give.  Just a thought. Thanks for a great discussion group!
>Thank you for answering my questions.
>Pete,  Zone 10, South Florida
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Reynolds <>
>To: Tomato List <>
>Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 2:41 AM
>Subject: [tomato] Reply to Orchid
>>My manure isn't composted.  Just sterile.  I've not been able to buy
>>composted manure down here, but, don't have the space to compost my own
>>manure.  Takes quite a bit of Manure to get a usable quantity if
>>composted correctly.
>>However, I do have a compost "heap" that I use the soil out of.  Get
>>about a wheel barrow full in a years time.  I screen it once a year.  Of
>>course, I compost mine longer than most folks do.  Mine comes out very
>>fine and smelling like the richest soil there is.
>>You could mix miracle gro or some others with it, but, I'd not recommend
>>puting a liquid ferti in compost.  By being already in the liquid state,
>>it's immediately available for plant up take once it gets into the
>>vicinity of the roots.
>>About the only thing that I mix with my compost that isn't from the
>>kitchen or the yard is kitty litter.  Kitty litter helps with the
>>moisture content and if placed on top, will help my heap retain
>>moisture, thus keeping the temp up and the worms active.  In fact, I
>>don't even put grass climpings in my heap anymore.  80% dried material
>>such as leaves and 10% kitchen wastes and 10% used kitty litter.  It's
>>done really well so far, but, it's going to be interesting to see what
>>the ammonia content of the cat urine is going to do when my heap really
>>starts heating up in a month or so.  I'm constantly experimenting with
>>my compost.
>>Nope, don't know anything about "superthrive" but would be interested in
>>reading up on it if you would be kind enough to send me an address on
>>Believe it or not, I know of a dairy that is growing tomatos in pure
>>manure.  I don't see why manure couldn't be used as an additive for
>>potted plants.  Most folks think that cattle manure is too hot for such
>>things, but, in actuality, cattle, horse, sheep and goat manures are
>>very tame.  You really have to be careful with hog and fowl manures.
>>Especially fowl.  Very hot and very strong in P and NO3.  A little goes
>>a long way.
>>Hog manure tends to make soil too hot and not do well as far as
>>growing.  I really don't know what the components are, but, I used to
>>raise hogs and where the pens where, nothing would grow but a few
>>pigweed plants.  Even after 10 years, there wasn't much growing other
>>than pigweed, nettles and some other nondesirables.  I never had the
>>time to take soil samples and send 'em in.
>Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 8646391 or,
>* Page me online through my Personal Communication Center:
> (go there and try it!) or,
>* Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen
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>Peter  N4LJU
Can anyone tell me how I can get off this list.

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