I received today, one of many seed catalogs I get each week. This one, PINETREE GARDEN SEEDS had an interesting statement in it. It might be old news to experienced tomato growers on this list, but it intrigued me. It went like this..... "Tomatoes can be a very space efficient vegetable if grown vertically. We like to grow them on 6 foot strings attached to a bar suspended above the plants. In this mode of growing, spacing is one plant per square foot. It is necessary to wind the string around the tip once a week and to remove suckers, the new growth that comes out of the axil. Yields of 20-40 pounds per plant are common using this method." I want to take this moment to thank everyone on the tomato discussion for giving me a wealth of knowledge.....and fun amongst some of the controversy..... I have asked sometimes stupid questions in the earnest hope of learning something. I hope I haven't become a pest, and/or a chronic poster on this list. Peter White, Zone 10, South Florida