I was emailing Doreen privately about Dr. Rick's tomatoes at Davis, California. I related to Doreen that I try to visit the greenhouse/field plantings to gather insight to breeding material for my breeding program. Much of the wild species there are difficult to use directly with cultivated tomatoes. Lycopersicon pimpinellifolium is one exception and I took note of one vine that had ripe sweet tomatoes of 1 cm or less. The L. hirsutum were fruitless in the field but very attractive vines. In the greenhouse, the same lines had to be sib mated to form fruit. I made field notes of esculentum types with neat mutations that I wanted for my heirloom breeding. The wild tomato species that I observed were: L. cheesmanii L. chilense L. chmielewskii L. hirsutum L. parviflorum L. pennellii L. peruvianum L. pimpinellifolium S. juglandifolium S. lycopersicoides S. ochranthum S. sitiens I was impressed with several years old plants of S. ochrnthum and L. hirsutum. They looked like trees. I was telling the young lady in charge of the one greenhouse that both make great root stalks in grafting to esculentum cuttings. I could keep the plants going for years here in the southern San Joaquin Valley. All that one would need to do is to prune back to a nub each fall like grape vines. The root stalks should live for many years if the frost is not bad, or protected somewhat.