I posted a message a number of days ago before I went out of town, and when I got back there was no record of it anywhere, not in sent messages or in the archives. Part of my time out of town was looking at tomatoes at the Charles Rick Tomato Genetic Resources facilities. I walked through the greenhouses looking at all the wild species and genetic stocks. I also walked the outdoor increase planting of tomatoes. I made notes of what I wanted in the future. I ran off lots of copies dealing with the collection at the UC Davis computer labs. Hardly anyone has been on this tomato board for a while and I feel I am to blame in part for being absent. I will attempt to answer a few of the questions now. Schimmeig Stoo and Schimmeig Creg are pretty tomatoes as Doreen states. You can see photos of these on Reinhard's Tomaten web site also. Brown Derby is just one of many hollow stuffers that I bred up years ago. It ripens to a neat brown color with just a few seeds in a cluster like a strawberry inside. It has a brown gel too, and I like it for making brown salsa, BBQ sauses, tomato chutney and the like. I never did get a response from Parks on my inquiry to them. But Keith Slocum of Seeds by Designs is a real thorn to me. I talked with him on the phone earlier this year and we are a real disconnect. I am sometimes slow on returning emails depending on how busy I am, but I really enjoy sharing info. Tom Wagner 661 321 0497