Tom, I'm a neophyte, but what was the ph before you added the lime? Did the soil need the lime? I was told the tomatoes like acidic soil, so what is the ph now, and why do you call it a "problem"? Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of TWilli58@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 1:21 PM To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com Subject: [tomato] Re: (no subject) pine needles my very un-scientific opinion FWIW: I once read in aa magazine dedicated to organic gardening that pine needles will not make your soil more acidic. So, that year I tried pine needle mulch around my tomatoes. It did a great job of preventing weeds. A soil test at the end of the year showed that my soil was more acidic than a year earlier despite the lime that I added in the spring. I'm assuming that it was the pine needles that caused the problem. Tom