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If you have any questions or problems, please contact "Majordomo-Owner@globalgarden.com". ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Sorge=20 To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:=20 Help.Help.Help.Help ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Ralph Therien" <rtherien@home.com> To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: RE: [tomato] Fw:=20 > Me too, for God's sakes ! >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com > [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM > To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com > Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw: >=20 >=20 > Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email list? >=20 > John Sorge > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betsy Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net> > To: <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw: >=20 >=20 > > Bob, > > > > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings instead of watering "all at = once"? > > Although there is an allure to the idea that the controller *can* = do that, > > I think it might actually be better to water in a single pass. If = this > > quantity of water regularly exceeds the capacity for the pot, it = would > > make sense to cut back a bit, although I generally prefer to water = to the > > point of run-out from container-grown tomatoes. What has me = concerned is > > the wilting you experienced when you cut back on the watering = before. > > That suggests that the plant's vascular system is pretty fragile. > > > > Also, I'd err above 1" per week in a container growing = environment; you > > may want to evaluate the actual qty of water delivered... drip = systems > > deliver a lot right below the drippers, but you want to make sure = you're > > getting good coverage to all the edges of the pot (i.e., sides & = bottom). > > > > We're guessing that you're growing outside. If you're growing = inside a > > greenhouse, as we do with most of our varieties, there are a few = other > > things I'd suggest for container growing. > > > > Since you're using mycorrhizal inoculum, have you adjusted your = nutrients > > accordingly? I think you're on the right track mulching the = plants, > > although I remember hearing something (surprising) suggesting that = bark > > mulches can be more harm than help. It was discussed in my Master > > Gardener group, so I'll see if I can get a bit more info on that. > > > > I'm hoping that your earlier watering will help reduce stress on = your > > plants and get up cranking out tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep = on > > growing and let us know how you're doing! > > > > Betsy > > Fairbanks, Alaska > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bob Addison wrote: > > > >From Bob Addison > > > addison@terrapin-net.com > > > > > > A follow-up my query about timing on a drip system; > > > (Should have said 10 min out of every hr. from 11;am > > > TO 4:10 pm [six waterings] total of 60 min.) > > > > > > Just went out and re-checked the flow-rate into one of > > > my tomato pots. > > > > > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10 Minutes. > > > =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr > > > 1" in a 15" pot is equal to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon) > > > This makes 65 cu.in. 37% of a weeks quota. > > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1 gallon) > > > Water starts running out of the bottom about the fourth > > > ten minute feeding. > > > > > > Of course if it rains I turn it off for a day and if it is a > > > hard rain I'll leave off longer. > > > > > > Have about 1" of Cyprus bark mulch on top of the soil and > > > use mycorrhizal fungi. > > > > > > Upon Betsy's recommendation I'm changing my watering times > > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ 8:AM, 15 min @,9:AM and 15 > > > min @ 10:AM > > > Bob > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFC64.F37F5240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFC64.F37F5240------- Original Message -----From:=20 John = SorgeTo: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com =Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 = 8:28=20 PMSubject: Re: [tomato] Fw: =Help.Help.Help.Help----- = Original Message=20 -----From: = "Ralph Therien"=20 <rtherien@home.com>To: = <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>Sent: = Tuesday, August=20 01, 2000 4:20 PMSubject: = RE: [tomato]=20 Fw:> Me too, for God's sakes !
>
> -----Original = Message-----
> From: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com
>=20 [mailto:owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com]On Behalf Of John Sorge
> = Sent:=20 Tuesday, August 01, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
> =
>
>=20 Please, please will anyone tell me how to get off this email = list?
>=20
> John Sorge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: = "Betsy=20 Lasarow Tozzi" <tozzi@alaska.net>
> To: = <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 = 3:57=20 AM
> Subject: Re: [tomato] Fw:
>
>
> >=20 Bob,
> >
> > Why are you doing 15 minute waterings = instead=20 of watering "all at once"?
> > Although there is an allure to = the=20 idea that the controller *can* do that,
> > I think it might = actually=20 be better to water in a single pass. If this
> > = quantity of=20 water regularly exceeds the capacity for the pot, it would
> = > make=20 sense to cut back a bit, although I generally prefer to water to = the
>=20 > point of run-out from container-grown tomatoes. What has me = concerned is
> > the wilting you experienced when you cut = back on the=20 watering before.
> > That suggests that the plant's vascular = system=20 is pretty fragile.
> >
> > Also, I'd err above 1" = per week=20 in a container growing environment; you
> > may want to = evaluate the=20 actual qty of water delivered... drip systems
> > deliver a = lot right=20 below the drippers, but you want to make sure you're
> > = getting good=20 coverage to all the edges of the pot (i.e., sides & = bottom).
>=20 >
> > We're guessing that you're growing outside. If = you're=20 growing inside a
> > greenhouse, as we do with most of our = varieties,=20 there are a few other
> > things I'd suggest for container=20 growing.
> >
> > Since you're using mycorrhizal = inoculum,=20 have you adjusted your nutrients
> > accordingly? I = think=20 you're on the right track mulching the plants,
> > although I = remember hearing something (surprising) suggesting that bark
> = >=20 mulches can be more harm than help. It was discussed in my=20 Master
> > Gardener group, so I'll see if I can get a bit = more info=20 on that.
> >
> > I'm hoping that your earlier = watering will=20 help reduce stress on your
> > plants and get up cranking out = tomatoes for you. Meanwhile, keep on
> > growing and let us = know how=20 you're doing!
> >
> > Betsy
> > Fairbanks,=20 Alaska
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Bob Addison=20 wrote:
> > > >From Bob Addison
> > > = addison@terrapin-net.com
> > >
> > = > A follow-up=20 my query about timing on a drip system;
> > > (Should have = said 10=20 min out of every hr. from 11;am
> > > TO 4:10 pm [six = waterings]=20 total of 60 min.)
> > >
> > > Just went out = and=20 re-checked the flow-rate into one of
> > > my tomato = pots.
>=20 > >
> > > Caught 6 OZ of water in 10 = Minutes.
> >=20 > =3D36 OZ /hr. or 65 cu. in./hr
> > > 1" in a 15" pot = is equal=20 to 176 cu. in. (71% of a gallon)
> > > This makes 65 = cu.in. 37% of=20 a weeks quota.
> > > (231 cu. in.=3D 1 gallon)
> = > >=20 Water starts running out of the bottom about the fourth
> > = > ten=20 minute feeding.
> > >
> > > Of course if it = rains I=20 turn it off for a day and if it is a
> > > hard rain I'll = leave=20 off longer.
> > >
> > > Have about 1" of = Cyprus bark=20 mulch on top of the soil and
> > > use mycorrhizal = fungi.
>=20 > >
> > > Upon Betsy's recommendation I'm changing = my=20 watering times
> > > to 15 min @ 7:AM, 15 min @ 8:AM, 15 = min=20 @,9:AM and 15
> > > min @ 10:AM
> > > = Bob
> >=20 >
> >
> >
>
>=20