Speaking of birds and chiles, a couple of weeks ago I came downstairs in the morning after getting ready to go to work. As usual our pet parrot, Taco, climbed on my shoulder and started giving me kisses on the lips. All of a sudden I noticed my lips were burning like crazy. I found out our next door neighbor had stopped by and given my wife a bunch of chiles from their garden. She had sliced a ripe jalapeno in half and hung it in our parrot's cage where he promptly proceeded to eat all the seeds and veins out of the center. I'm not sure what my neighbor did, but these are some of the hottest jalapenos I've ever seen. She also gave us a bunch of habaneros along with them. Maybe growing them together had some effect. At any rate I can attest to bird's love for chiles. Garry Howard - Cambridge, MA garry@netrelief.com Garry's Home Cooking http://cooking.netrelief.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com > [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Peter Moss > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 4:08 PM > To: Cameron Begg; brent@hplbct.hpl.hp.com; Chile-Heads@globalgarden.com > Subject: Re: [CH] Chile Birds > > > On 30 Nov 98 at 15:37, Cameron Begg wrote: > > > > At 12:55 PM -0600 11/30/98, Brent Thompson wrote: > > > >I'm not sure.......... that position of > > >mature fruit, whether erect, pendant, or variable, is even considered a > > >significant taxonomic characteristic -- unlike flower > position, which is. > > > > Maybe not. Bosland and DeWitt don't bother to mention it. > > USDA list fruit position as one of the descriptors. I am not > going to even suggest due to ignorance that it is of any > taxononic significance. Of interest is that there are many > species of ground foraging birds as well. How many if any of > these occur in C. cardenasii land I don't know. > > Regards > Peter >