The Red Savinas(tm) I've planted the last four years now only had variation the first year when I bought through a seed catalog. Since that period of time I've planted well over 60,000 total and ran a non-standard rate of maybe 1% or less. That first year though I did have some yellows, orange, greens, and purples. None since then. I have bought my seed direct from GNS Inc, the last few years though. The Savina(tm) is said to have been a sport found by chance in a field of regular habs about to be plowed under. The seeds were saved, then bred and developed by a very large and established seed company. PVP status was applied for and received. The Scoville rating was done by an independant, nationally known lab using HPLC. GNS Spice has entered into only a very few agreements with resellers of seed, Shepherds being the one I know. The name 'Savina' is named for the mother of the PVP holder, Mr. Frank Garcia, Jr. I just went and checked the fields today and found my habs are over 5 feet tall!! Some hab chiles are nearly the size of my closed fist. I'll eventually get pictures of these things available. My serranos though, are being hammered by virus it would seem. -Jim Campbell MWPH Setting 'slow mail' for the next two weeks (Indiana State Fair). I'll get to any messages from this point later rather than sooner. Disclaimers: Although I grow the Red Savina(tm) under agreement with GNS, Inc., I do not sell seed. I also do not gain directly from the sale of seeds by GNS, Inc., and only indirectly gain through the increased interest in the chile.